"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Foe

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Hate to say it lads but this tool is awesome, while you all might be real people with opinions weighted in actual experience I get instant, custom advise when I need it. On here you never really know the background, motive or intention of the advise.

I haven't been here because I've been cheating on you guys with AI
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I am obviously dealing with some **** lately, and I have used one of the AIs from time to time. However, all I find is that it becomes an echo chamber of your thoughts and emotions, and it feeds the same perspective back to you. It can help you organize your thoughts, and it is not going to come up with new introspection unless they come from your input.

I don’t think it gets to the point where the validation and experience of a human being can be substituted. For example, there are members here who specialize in how you should look, others who are experts on how to talk to or bed women right away, and others who have tons of experience with relationships. Nonetheless, there are also some who are just useless and don’t know much.
 
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I use AI to argue with. It's not as good as arguing with a person, except that AI is better at keeping the discussion logical.

I tried to use AI for text messaging practice, but it wasn't that effective. Doing that my way is the only way I could get it done.
 

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ChatGPT for therapy and life stuff, Grok for breaking down cold approach interactions, Claude and Claude Cowork for work. :rofl:

Chat is really good at explaining high level stuff in an approach but it is a bit PC so keep that in mind. But Grok is less PC and will talk about sexual stuff. Grok is also way better for writing messages.
 

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I have used chatgpt/Grok to analyze situations that went left or get a 2nd opinion. I've also giot some canned openers and a metaflow chart that I created for Chatgpt but I hardly use it even though it's solid
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Be careful.

LLM"s are "trained" on the entirety of the internet.

Which includes reddit and sites like sosuave.

They don't have some straight line into psychological truth.

They are giving you advice that is the sum total of all the crap posted online by red pillers, black pillers, blue pillers, cope flexers, delusional posters etc.

AND LLM's are deliberately trained to validate whatever you think.

While they'll make you feel fantastic, and that you're on a happy path to success, they may be inadvertently keeping you stuck in a rabbit hole of self validating delusion.

This is the same problem that plagues modern therapy.

Modern therapists make a lot more money by validating their patients rather than actual tough-love healing.

Always, always, always, test their advice out in the field to see if it actually works.
 

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Be careful.

LLM"s are "trained" on the entirety of the internet.

Which includes reddit and sites like sosuave.

They don't have some straight line into psychological truth.

They are giving you advice that is the sum total of all the crap posted online by red pillers, black pillers, blue pillers, cope flexers, delusional posters etc.

AND LLM's are deliberately trained to validate whatever you think.

While they'll make you feel fantastic, and that you're on a happy path to success, they may be inadvertently keeping you stuck in a rabbit hole of self validating delusion.

This is the same problem that plagues modern therapy.

Modern therapists make a lot more money by validating their patients rather than actual tough-love healing.

Always, always, always, test their advice out in the field to see if it actually works.
Yep. Give it very specific prompts, and always field test it.
 

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I've used it before. Give ChatGPT the facts as best as you can and it gives you decent feedback as long as you're not looking for anything to deep. It corrects your tone and gives you the alternative point of view. The other major provider that I think is solid is Grok. Grok is good at text game to a certain degree. It's more game aware and believes in frame and the thinking related to that. There was one other thread I had going with ChatGPT where i kept feeding it new information and it gave me real world odds of something being true or false. I was able to verify on my own whether or not something happened and ChatGPT was right. Again, as long as you're not looking for anything too important, it can be solid.
 

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I'd be careful about the details you give AI. No telling what might end up online if it gets hacked and/or uploads information without your consent
 

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I've used it before. Give ChatGPT the facts as best as you can and it gives you decent feedback as long as you're not looking for anything to deep. It corrects your tone and gives you the alternative point of view. The other major provider that I think is solid is Grok. Grok is good at text game to a certain degree. It's more game aware and believes in frame and the thinking related to that. There was one other thread I had going with ChatGPT where i kept feeding it new information and it gave me real world odds of something being true or false. I was able to verify on my own whether or not something happened and ChatGPT was right. Again, as long as you're not looking for anything too important, it can be solid.
Yeah, Grok is really really solid for texting and breakdowns. It’ll even go over sexual topics. It’s better than GPT. But for like running interactions, sometimes the way GPT describes things just makes so much sense and is so easy to follow. (Ex. Group dynamics in opening sets solo, no wingman)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I'd be careful about the details you give AI. No telling what might end up online if it gets hacked and/or uploads information without your consent
Yeah, you don’t want to put your PII in there for sure.
 
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