"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How many of you are using AI as therapist/dating coach

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Foe

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Hate to say it lads but this tool is awesome, while you all might be real people with opinions weighted in actual experience I get instant, custom advise when I need it. On here you never really know the background, motive or intention of the advise.

I haven't been here because I've been cheating on you guys with AI
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Clockwerk50

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I am obviously dealing with some **** lately, and I have used one of the AIs from time to time. However, all I find is that it becomes an echo chamber of your thoughts and emotions, and it feeds the same perspective back to you. It can help you organize your thoughts, and it is not going to come up with new introspection unless they come from your input.

I don’t think it gets to the point where the validation and experience of a human being can be substituted. For example, there are members here who specialize in how you should look, others who are experts on how to talk to or bed women right away, and others who have tons of experience with relationships. Nonetheless, there are also some who are just useless and don’t know much.
 
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Plinco

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I use AI to argue with. It's not as good as arguing with a person, except that AI is better at keeping the discussion logical.

I tried to use AI for text messaging practice, but it wasn't that effective. Doing that my way is the only way I could get it done.
 

nicksaiz65

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ChatGPT for therapy and life stuff, Grok for breaking down cold approach interactions, Claude and Claude Cowork for work. :rofl:

Chat is really good at explaining high level stuff in an approach but it is a bit PC so keep that in mind. But Grok is less PC and will talk about sexual stuff. Grok is also way better for writing messages.
 

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I have used chatgpt/Grok to analyze situations that went left or get a 2nd opinion. I've also giot some canned openers and a metaflow chart that I created for Chatgpt but I hardly use it even though it's solid
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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taiyuu_otoko

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Be careful.

LLM"s are "trained" on the entirety of the internet.

Which includes reddit and sites like sosuave.

They don't have some straight line into psychological truth.

They are giving you advice that is the sum total of all the crap posted online by red pillers, black pillers, blue pillers, cope flexers, delusional posters etc.

AND LLM's are deliberately trained to validate whatever you think.

While they'll make you feel fantastic, and that you're on a happy path to success, they may be inadvertently keeping you stuck in a rabbit hole of self validating delusion.

This is the same problem that plagues modern therapy.

Modern therapists make a lot more money by validating their patients rather than actual tough-love healing.

Always, always, always, test their advice out in the field to see if it actually works.
 

nicksaiz65

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Be careful.

LLM"s are "trained" on the entirety of the internet.

Which includes reddit and sites like sosuave.

They don't have some straight line into psychological truth.

They are giving you advice that is the sum total of all the crap posted online by red pillers, black pillers, blue pillers, cope flexers, delusional posters etc.

AND LLM's are deliberately trained to validate whatever you think.

While they'll make you feel fantastic, and that you're on a happy path to success, they may be inadvertently keeping you stuck in a rabbit hole of self validating delusion.

This is the same problem that plagues modern therapy.

Modern therapists make a lot more money by validating their patients rather than actual tough-love healing.

Always, always, always, test their advice out in the field to see if it actually works.
Yep. Give it very specific prompts, and always field test it.
 

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I've used it before. Give ChatGPT the facts as best as you can and it gives you decent feedback as long as you're not looking for anything to deep. It corrects your tone and gives you the alternative point of view. The other major provider that I think is solid is Grok. Grok is good at text game to a certain degree. It's more game aware and believes in frame and the thinking related to that. There was one other thread I had going with ChatGPT where i kept feeding it new information and it gave me real world odds of something being true or false. I was able to verify on my own whether or not something happened and ChatGPT was right. Again, as long as you're not looking for anything too important, it can be solid.
 

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I'd be careful about the details you give AI. No telling what might end up online if it gets hacked and/or uploads information without your consent
 

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I've used it before. Give ChatGPT the facts as best as you can and it gives you decent feedback as long as you're not looking for anything to deep. It corrects your tone and gives you the alternative point of view. The other major provider that I think is solid is Grok. Grok is good at text game to a certain degree. It's more game aware and believes in frame and the thinking related to that. There was one other thread I had going with ChatGPT where i kept feeding it new information and it gave me real world odds of something being true or false. I was able to verify on my own whether or not something happened and ChatGPT was right. Again, as long as you're not looking for anything too important, it can be solid.
Yeah, Grok is really really solid for texting and breakdowns. It’ll even go over sexual topics. It’s better than GPT. But for like running interactions, sometimes the way GPT describes things just makes so much sense and is so easy to follow. (Ex. Group dynamics in opening sets solo, no wingman)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

Read more...

nicksaiz65

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I'd be careful about the details you give AI. No telling what might end up online if it gets hacked and/or uploads information without your consent
Yeah, you don’t want to put your PII in there for sure.
 
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