Getting HOTTER women through any version of ‘Game’

[Cheeky_James]

Guys of the forum
I just wanna ask something here… is there any acfual evidence at all that any form of ‘Game’ works in getting women above your smv?

honest question.
I mean PUA ‘Game’ was pretty much a fail and had zero evidence of this.

But …is there any evidence from ‘post PUA’ either?? ( or should I say, just the traditional ideas of bettering oneself)

To the self improvement believers here;
does any kind of ‘maxxing’ actually really move the needle to get women out of a guys SMV league?

like, I’m exluding mad maxxes in Status and Money factors. Cos they pretty hard to do (Afaik) like jumping from $100K -> $500K pa , or becoming a ‘super connected popular social circle guy’ if ur an introvert by nature …

like. Is BP correct in looks -matching … cos I think are.

I’m about a 7 face and 5’10” tall.
And have pulled heaps.
But only through volume have I managed to occasionally pull what I’d call “out of my league’ .
The bottom of the 8 tier.
8s-with-lotsa-problems kinda deal. Broken 8s. Mental issues etc (lol)
I’m keeping it real here.

like quality 8s. 9s and 10s are just out of my league no matter what I reckon. I’m capped on looks and height unfortunately.

Like, if I gym maxxed and got a great body.. I reckon I’d still max out with a fit 7 chick. Yknow?


Opinions (and more importantly evidence ) please .

Cheers CJ

 

[Plinco]

If you're talking about inner 'game' then yes. Feeling better about yourself makes you look better.

 

[CornbreadFed]

If your profile picture is Hannibal then I think you are SOL

 

[corrector]

If your profile picture is Hannibal then I think you are SOL

Hannibal has JBW going for him.

 

[corrector]

There is always the Wish Willow and wish-maxxing when self-improvement and game doesn't work. Not that I would recommend that of course.

 

[corrector]

 

[Cheeky_James]

If your profile picture is Hannibal then I think you are SOL

Ssssffftttttttt!!

 

[Cheeky_James]

Hannibal has JBW going for him.

And height

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Dating is a volume game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is lying to themselves.

 

[Cheeky_James]

There is always the Wish Willow and wish-maxxing when self-improvement and game doesn't work. Not that I would recommend that of course.

Never heard of it but assume it’s a joke.
Geo-maxxing is all I can see as a real quick fix to jump up smv to access hotter women.

Other ways might be via status maxxing
DrugDealer/ Thug Maxx
DJ/ClubPromoter/Bouncer Maxx
Fashion photographer Maxx
None are easy.

And the girls will be LSE /problem cases

Else (just for sex)

Swinger&KinkCommunity / AmateurPornStar maxx

And pray for luck that a baddie comes

 

[Cheeky_James]

Dating is a volume game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is lying to themselves.

that’s not even the question asked tho.
It’s

-is there any evidence (at all) that any kind of Game gets a guy hotter women than his base smv of his Looks rating?

Volume just a guy gets a guy more chicks around (or below) his league. Not above his league. Not hotter women. That’s my assertion.

I don’t see any evidence at all tbh.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

that’s not even the question asked tho.
It’s

-is there any evidence (at all) that any kind of Game gets a guy hotter women than his base smv of his Looks rating?

Volume just a guy gets a guy more chicks around (or below) his league. Not above his league. Not hotter women. That’s my assertion.

I don’t see any evidence at all tbh.

Volume and/or game will get you women at your league. Luck will get you women above you league.

 

[BadBoy89]

-is there any evidence (at all) that any kind of Game gets a guy hotter women than his base smv of his Looks rating?

You are asking "on a abstract thing, is there evidence you can get a definite thing?"

First the abstract thing has to be defined. Otherwise there will be arguments over what it is.

 

[corrector]

Never heard of it but assume it’s a joke.
Geo-maxxing is all I can see as a real quick fix to jump up smv to access hotter women.

Other ways might be via status maxxing
DrugDealer/ Thug Maxx
DJ/ClubPromoter/Bouncer Maxx
Fashion photographer Maxx
None are easy.

And the girls will be LSE /problem cases

Else (just for sex)

Swinger&KinkCommunity / AmateurPornStar maxx

And pray for luck that a baddie comes

The wish willow:

 

[BackInTheGame78]

that’s not even the question asked tho.
It’s

-is there any evidence (at all) that any kind of Game gets a guy hotter women than his base smv of his Looks rating?

Volume just a guy gets a guy more chicks around (or below) his league. Not above his league. Not hotter women. That’s my assertion.

I don’t see any evidence at all tbh.

Of course there is.

If you think having zero conversationsl skills, acting like a weirdo, being creepy or other inept behaviors by men doesn't turn women off then I'm not sure what to tell you.

 

[zekko]

is there any acfual evidence at all that any form of ‘Game’ works in getting women above your smv?

I've said this before, but I don't like this concept. It's saying that she has higher value than you, putting her on a pedestal.
Would it make you feel better that she was "slumming" with you?

 

[BaronOfHair]

Guys of the forum
I just wanna ask something here… is there any acfual evidence at all that any form of ‘Game’ works in getting women above your smv?

Some dating and mating goals are impractical, no matter how many tactics and strategies one has acquired, yeah... Exs.

-If you're neither a 1%er nor a glamorous celebrity, bagging the day's hottest actress or the world's most venerated supermodel is-generally speaking-more unlikely than Carl Benjamin, Turd Flinging Monkey, and Brian Martinez over at Honey Badger Radio making it from their respective front doors to the mailbox, without running out if breath. Women in that income bracket almost never "date down", and when they do, it's in pursuit of a house husband. Reference Danny Moder and Cooke Marooney

-Conversely, if you ARE a 1%er/something adjacent or glamorous celebrity... Well, it's prudent to be extremely cagey about the gals you allow into your orbit. Quite a few of these fellas have either wifed up a waitress or a glamour model of working class origins, only to find that such women are a poor fit for the social strata they occupy. It's no coincidence that Anastasia Steele's almost never occur outside the realm of fiction. Multi-billionaires in RL almost always marry women who are AT LEAST upper middle class

 

[Cheeky_James]

I've said this before, but I don't like this concept. It's saying that she has higher value than you, putting her on a pedestal.
Would it make you feel better that she was "slumming" with you?

dude - If I’m a solid 7/10 in looks and height.
And if she is a 10/10 supermodel.. or movie star.
of course she has higher value than me

Or a 9/10..
Or an 8/10..

no amount of Inner game gymnastics changes the reality of her looks vs my looks .

like I said in OP.

Is there any evidence of girls dating down in smv IRL.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Of course there is.

So where is it.
Pls point me in the direction. Just upload some photos demonstrating this.. of a guy dating up in smv using any form of ‘game’ strategy,

if it’s so obvious and visible, ought to easy for you to evidence.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

So where is it.
Pls point me in the direction. Just upload some photos demonstrating this.. of a guy dating up in smv using any form of ‘game’ strategy,

if it’s so obvious and visible, ought to easy for you to evidence.

This is simply silly and that isn't how it works.

Because you are competing against yourself. So your own baseline is what you are looking to improve. Who keeps "evidence" of every woman they talk to?

It's easily showable by people who don't approach women very often and are terrible, but then become better as they do it more often. Just like literally anything else in life. Why would you think this would be any different?

Same looks, so what changed? Clearly it's their ability which was developed through repetition and practice. The same way a person who is a professional athlete wasn't the same skill level the first time they played their first game.