"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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What instantly tells you a dude is going through a 'mid life crisis'?

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I can testify some stories coming from some people I know including my father. Things like cheating on your significant other, buying expensive stuff and not living within your means etc. What are you guys opinion on this matter? Can a guy have a mid life crisis or is it a normal state of mind people go through every day?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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This varies from era to era. During The 1970s, I'm told one could identify such a man by noting the leisure suit he'd thrown on + The fact that he was a few decades past twenty

Today, beware any guy who graduated HS in The early 2000s, who's rediscovered his affinity for New Found Glory, Good Charlotte, and regular visits to Hot Topic
 

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Today, beware any guy who graduated HS in The early 2000s, who's rediscovered his affinity for New Found Glory, Good Charlotte, and regular visits to Hot Topic
Lol...sounds like me minus the tattoos, accessories and spiked up hair....I still listen to plenty of early 2000s and late 90s pop music...as a matter a fact I was listening to Britney Spears oops I did it again while taking a dump the other day lol haha.

But seriously, the EMO style is still in style decades after it has gone out in my opinion.
 

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I've always thought mid life crisis is projection from the perspective of others.

I don't think you can easily infer someone's internal state based on superficial external behaviors like that.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I've always thought mid life crisis is projection from the perspective of others.

I don't think you can easily infer someone's internal state based on superficial external behaviors like that.
Yes.

There’s a big difference between “I genuinely enjoy XYZ” and “I’m doing XYZ because I’m insecure about my age.”
 

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Yes.

There’s a big difference between “I genuinely enjoy XYZ” and “I’m doing XYZ because I’m insecure about my age.”
For the past 70 or so years, "acting your age" in your 40s and 50s means means developing male breasts, going bald, becoming diabetic, and being poison dripped by an ugly/fat wife. If you're fit, stylish, have your hair, maybe drive a nice car, and you insist on still running through women half your age, it's somehow seen as a sign of immaturity or insecurity, which is just absurd. All the shame is just coping from men who have let themselves and all their dreams go and have somehow convinced themselves that having man boobs is normal.
 
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Lol...sounds like me minus the tattoos, accessories and spiked up hair....I still listen to plenty of early 2000s and late 90s pop music...
You're certifiably "there" then, no less so than a 60something gal who began using her preferred pronouns, the day after Trump was elected in '16
 

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Sometimes a midlife crisis is appropriate, as oftentimes a man will be in a crisis in the midst of his life.

Ofcourse you mean stuff that's already been mentioned. But the positive side of a midlife crisis might be a man suddenly realising he gotta lose weight, stopping xyz while actually doing what should be done.

Could be small shyte like dressing better.
Could be whatever positive thing .
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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guy is working hard to be happy. but does not know how. no mentor, no luck, just hard work. at some point he understand he is improving but not happy. instead of figuring out the truth he starts randomly making adjustments. usually his resources are much more than when he is younger.

good or bad, who knows... its just another season of life. some of the mid life crisis events are the most interesting of life. its a time when your constraints have changed but the problems are the same.
 

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Being on Sosuave for several years despite knowing what to do to attract women.

He'd rather give advice because its much more fun to tell people what to do than to improve and be vulnerable.
 

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Dying ur hair (looks weird on most men)
 

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Guys that suddenly want to go out to the clubs again in their early 40s.
That might be true in some cases but I think the problem with your assertion is that you're using conformity as a standard instead of an individual's relationship with reality.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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That might be true in some cases but I think the problem with your assertion is that you're using conformity as a standard instead of an individual's relationship with reality.
No my man, this is called the Mid-Life Crisis.

Some guys get divorced, some guys start working out or playing sports again, some guys buy a new car or boat, some guys start going back to the clubs. Same thing just different responses to it.
 

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No my man, this is called the Mid-Life Crisis.

Some guys get divorced, some guys start working out or playing sports again, some guys buy a new car or boat, some guys start going back to the clubs. Same thing just different responses to it.
So is that your opinion or are you confident enough to state this as a fact?

I'd hate to hijack op's thread. If need be I'll make a separate thread
 

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I think you're a smart guy but fail to see the big picture. I was half hoping that you'd engage in some kind of debate with me so that I could demonstrate where I think you go wrong epistemologically but I remembered that I tried that already and that went nowhere.
 

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I think you're a smart guy but fail to see the big picture. I was half hoping that you'd engage in some kind of debate with me so that I could demonstrate where I think you go wrong epistemologically but I remembered that I tried that already and that went nowhere.
I don't get into debates, they are pointless.
 

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I don't get into debates, they are pointless.
You can learn a lot from debates if they are constructive. It allows you to compare two different systems.

Next time you say something stupid I'll just bust your balls like you do to me
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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