the appeal of narcisists and sociopats

[kavi]

Interesting things. Tell us more.

Be specific, anything you want to know or any questions.

 

[tesla8520]

Do you mean that women are actually settling down?

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Women aren't directly attracted to narcissists and sociopaths they're attracted to qualities that those men tend to possess ie rock-solid frames.

 

[tesla8520]

rock-solid frames.

I agree with you.
And I also think these rock-solid frames don't come from a place of security, but insecurity.
For us men, all that matters is understanding where that security comes from.
But I don't think women can tell the difference.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I agree with you.
And I also think these rock-solid frames don't come from a place of security, but insecurity.
For us men, all that matters is understanding where that security comes from.
But I don't think women can tell the difference.

That's the most frustrating part. Women don't really understand men on a fundamental level, due to their solipcism and projection. They only react to the behaviors and then make up post-hoc explainations in order to convince themselves they've "figured him out".

While it is true that woman can sniff out insecurity/neediness etc, I think they are equally likely to get blindsided by a man who completely controls the frame. I'm convinced now that frame control (and it's primary downstream effect, compliance) is the single important factor for maintaining attraction and respect.

 

[tesla8520]

They only react to the behaviors and then make up post-hoc explainations in order to convince themselves they've "figured him out".

This is interesting! Do you have examples?

I'm convinced now that frame control (and it's primary downstream effect, compliance) is the single important factor for maintaining attraction and respect.

It is! But there's something to add. When a woman cheats on the man who has had the most emotional power in her life, and then, they eventually keep the couple, she may still be controlled by his frame, but in my opinion there's no longer any admiration. There may be respect for the situation, but not admiration or desire.

also, from personal experience, if you're a man that can control the frame with a specific woman, this doesn't mean that will work with another one too. Curious about your experience on this

 

[BaronOfHair]

Given the state most of us are in today, a fellow like this

Seems like top-of-the-line mating