Women that chase men

[Pumax]

Do you guys think that women that chase or show interest to men, like declaring themselves, are the bad/toxic ones?

I mean if a woman want a man, but the man struggle to understand or doesnt care, so she does a major "interest show off" like directlt declaring herself or inviting him out, does that mean women like that are bad or toxic?

 

[Prepostereax]

Women show "interest" in a different way to men, ie it's indirect and plausibly deniable.
What a woman considers as wide open flirting, is often invisible to men.

And they do it often, partly because it can take a while for the average guy to get the hint, and partly because it could be just for fun or practice.
ie in most cases, women are outcome independent, if the dude doesn't reciprocate, then it was just a bit of harmless fun.


Here you are basically asking if they make unmistakable DTF messages?

Do you guys think that women that chase or show interest to men, like declaring themselves, are the bad/toxic ones?

I mean if a woman want a man, but the man struggle to understand or doesnt care, so she does a major "interest show off" like directlt declaring herself or inviting him out, does that mean women like that are bad or toxic?

Not necessarily, but even when a woman desperately wants a man, she wants him to want her, enough that he does at least some of the pursuing

That's why they put in so much effort beforehand, to make themselves the prettiest flower they can be.

I can't remember who posted this, I think it was catsmeow, so I'll paraphrase
"If I was in the same room as Chris Hemsworth, but his expression towards me is 'meh', my opinion and desire for him would plummet"

When women "skip the bs", it's generally because

* they've swallowed dozens of d!cks already
* they're budding boss babes
* their perceived smv is lower than your perceived smv
* under the influence of alcohol and/or party drugs
* spurred on by their bestie (usually in combination with the above 2)
* some darker reason eg make another dude jealous, steal your wallet/kidneys
* could also be because you gave off non-verbal signals which she interpreted, correctly or not, as an approach (eg dancing with her)
* or her "invitation to go out" isn't actually a DTF pronouncement, it's because she sees you as a girlfriend or gay bestie, and all she really wants from you is to gossip over coffee

If you're just after a ONS, a woman making the first move is welcome (assuming she passes your boner test)
If you want something more substantial, tread with caution

 

[Velasco]

"If I was in the same room as Chris Hemsworth, but his expression towards me is 'meh', my opinion and desire for him would plummet"

takes me back to my early mystery method days. where i tried to hide my interest until i saw an obvious indicator of interest. like if they didn’t make an effort to come talk to me, despite that fact that i could tell they were interested subconsciously, i wouldn’t make a move and they would interpret that as disinterest from me, and then they’d lose interest lol

 

[Velasco]

Chris Hemsworth is attractive for sure but if he acted "meh" towards me, I'd walk away and focus on other men who didn't act meh towards me and were interested

do u know what plummet means? hint: not go up lol

 

[Sega Genesis]

do u know what plummet means? hint: not go up lol

Lol ok my bad I feel silly now. Thanks for correcting me, appreciate it. I guess I've been conditioned to expect the worst when it comes to catsmeow, obviously I wasn't thinking! Lol

I'm gonna delete my post.

 

[BeExcellent]

Men are hunters. Think about that. Hunting requires effort, tactics, stealth to catch prey.

If the prey comes and lays down before you saying "Pick me!" "Pick me!!" it is defective.

Like might have rabies defective...

Caveat emptor gentlemen.

 

[Gamisch]

Ime women will definitely show interest. Especially when you knock her of her socks by just being in her presence.

She might not straight up tell it immediately, but as time goes on she will be more and more bold about it. ..matter of fact ( and I'd like to hear the ladies @BeExcellent and @Sega Genesis opinion) ,most women have enough options and especially knowledge about their specific taste to determine a " fitting prospect " is close by. And when a man qualified, she won't mind putting in effort to rail him in...

So yes gents, the trick is to be(come) that guy. The man who will have women behave completely different than she does around other men. If you build yourself up you will notice that women will indeed chase YOU, albeit subtle and covertly but yet allowing you as a man to push things further and further.

 

[Bigpapa]

takes me back to my early mystery method days. where i tried to hide my interest until i saw an obvious indicator of interest. like if they didn’t make an effort to come talk to me, despite that fact that i could tell they were interested subconsciously, i wouldn’t make a move and they would interpret that as disinterest from me, and then they’d lose interest lol

I think that only showing mild interest at best to a girl that has high self esteem / has a more traditional view of the courtship phase, would not really make her auto reject

and I also feel the mystery method made more sense in the early 2000s, as women overall I feel that they had more self esteem / viewed the courtship more from a traditional angle, than they do now

I do not think that the mystery method was necessarily flawed, but more calibrated to the culture / expectation back then

Recently I spent a lot of time plunging Eastern European women ( former Soviet Union space ), and I noticed that if I show interest more than mildly then it would be very difficult to seduce them, as if I would push they would pull back with the same force

I think the spike in auto - rejection, especially in the developed countries, is highly correlated to the high anxiety that both men and women have in general

 

[Solomon]

Women show "interest" in a different way to men, ie it's indirect and plausibly deniable.
What a woman considers as wide open flirting, is often invisible to men.

And they do it often, partly because it can take a while for the average guy to get the hint, and partly because it could be just for fun or practice.
ie in most cases, women are outcome independent, if the dude doesn't reciprocate, then it was just a bit of harmless fun.


Here you are basically asking if they make unmistakable DTF messages?


Not necessarily, but even when a woman desperately wants a man, she wants him to want her, enough that he does at least some of the pursuing

That's why they put in so much effort beforehand, to make themselves the prettiest flower they can be.

I can't remember who posted this, I think it was catsmeow, so I'll paraphrase
"If I was in the same room as Chris Hemsworth, but his expression towards me is 'meh', my opinion and desire for him would plummet"

When women "skip the bs", it's generally because

* they've swallowed dozens of d!cks already
* they're budding boss babes
* their perceived smv is lower than your perceived smv
* under the influence of alcohol and/or party drugs
* spurred on by their bestie (usually in combination with the above 2)
* some darker reason eg make another dude jealous, steal your wallet/kidneys
* could also be because you gave off non-verbal signals which she interpreted, correctly or not, as an approach (eg dancing with her)
* or her "invitation to go out" isn't actually a DTF pronouncement, it's because she sees you as a girlfriend or gay bestie, and all she really wants from you is to gossip over coffee

If you're just after a ONS, a woman making the first move is welcome (assuming she passes your boner test)
If you want something more substantial, tread with caution

Or if a woman is truly attracted to you sexually and physically, that is part of the red pill Chad Obsession. Women who are sexually attracted to you make it easier, especially if they just want to hook up or get smashed by you right away.

Most men will seldom or never experience this and cannot fathom a woman just wanting to come home with you for the night after the club or come straight to your house and skip a formal date if you meet on online dating.Most men are brainwashed to believe you have to jump through all these hoops to get a hookup, and it is true to an extent, but if she is attracted to you she will break her own rules. This has been an eye opener to most men who I would say are not sexually desirable and thus has caused a culture shock on social media of sorts.

 

[Bigpapa]

Most men will seldom or never experience this and cannot fathom a woman just wanting to come home with you for the night after the club or come straight to your house and skip a formal date if you meet on online dating.

Yeah, if you punch way lower than your smv you can get this experience

but what is the point of it?

most of the guys will not punch it that low bellow their smv because it ain’t worth it

I think that the obsession of men with the guy that women will just throw themselves to him that aggressively is mainly just an obsession, because guys rarely will play forward with a girl where is a big gap in terms of smv

 

[Hal9000]

Depends on how you define "chase or show interest" because its gonna be hard to match up with any woman without her showing interest at some point. Now it can definitely be too over the top to the point of seeming desperate or stalkery for sure,but a woman sending clear signals of interest in ways we've discussed here ad nauseum are always much appreciated IMO.