"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I made 24 direct cold approaches in one night

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I made a total of 33 in two days.

Thursday night: there were a ton of approach worthy women in Orlando, I'd say I saw about 44 or so whom I wanted to approach, but approached 24. 24/44

Friday during the day: I saw 6 approach worthy, and approached 3. 3/6

Friday night: 7 were approach worthy, and approached 6. I got approached by a cutie that night. 6/7


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About f***ing time...imagine how much progress you could've made if you'd done this earlier. What is that? Like a year's worth of your total approaches in one night?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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About f***ing time...imagine how much progress you could've made if you'd done this earlier. What is that? Like a year's worth of your total approaches in one night?
One quarter actually

I've been thinking ever since I came back how I'm going to make it back over there again. I really can't do those kind of numbers here locally without getting a bad rep.
 

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I'll paypal you 10 bucks OP if you dress up in a spacesuit and run some Alien Game
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Yeah,but realistically 99% of us gonna have to work until the grand reaper comes for us. At my job I see more and more men continue to work after their retirement age.
 

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Maybe you could travel on the weekends to game until you can move. I used to do that when I lived in a smaller town until I could move to a big city.
 

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Props to you for taking action and having some fun in the process.

You mentioned that they finded you unattractive. Have you heard the concept that "attraction is built in the push"?

Try to be more of a challenge to these girls. It spikes their emotions, and they have to chase you at some point. The opposite never works, I believe.

So learn some spikes, challenges, qualifications, etc. Check out Tom Torero's archive. I can send it to you if you don't find it.

Keep up!

p.s: Also, this girl that approached you - maybe you should have "bounced" her somewhere where you can continue your conversation as if it's a date. In nightgame that's what you should be doing if things are going good with a girl. This is the escalation process. The first bounce is maybe to a quieter part of the club. Or maybe to the bar. Or a table. Or outside "to get some fresh air". Whatever. Try it sometime.

My point with all of this, I guess, is that you need to have some structure and knowledge (theory) of how things happen. Just talking to them like a friend won't do it. There gotta be some friction (flirting, etc.), and you have to lead, eventually.
 
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Props to you for taking action and having some fun in the process.

You mentioned that they finded you unattractive. Have you heard the concept that "attraction is built in the push"?

Try to be more of a challenge to these girls. It spikes their emotions, and they have to chase you at some point. The opposite never works, I believe.

So learn some spikes, challenges, qualifications, etc. Check out Tom Torero's archive. I can send it to you if you don't find it.

Keep up!

p.s: Also, this girl that approached you - maybe you should have "bounced" her somewhere where you can continue your conversation as if it's a date. In nightgame that's what you should be doing if things are going good with a girl. This is the escalation process. The first bounce is maybe to a quieter part of the club. Or maybe to the bar. Or a table. Or outside "to get some fresh air". Whatever. Try it sometime.

My point with all of this, I guess, is that you need to have some structure and knowledge (theory) of how things happen. Just talking to them like a friend won't do it. There gotta be some friction (flirting, etc.), and you have to lead, eventually.
If you have some Torero archives, please send them my way too haha.

Totally agree on the isolation. What’s your strategy been when the girl is non compliant at first, ex. “I can’t leave my friends?” Do you just keep vibing and try to isolate again later? Or do you just grab the number & bounce?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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you need a coach. in person. so they can see wtf u doing. Theres dudes banging chicks without trying. You got grit but it doesnt matter if you're not attractive. The goal is to get their coochie wet, not for you to spam approach.
 

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you need a coach. in person. so they can see wtf u doing. Theres dudes banging chicks without trying. You got grit but it doesnt matter if you're not attractive. The goal is to get their coochie wet, not for you to spam approach.
An in person bootcamp w instant feedback in a major city is a good idea
 

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If you have some Torero archives, please send them my way too haha.

Totally agree on the isolation. What’s your strategy been when the girl is non compliant at first, ex. “I can’t leave my friends?” Do you just keep vibing and try to isolate again later? Or do you just grab the number & bounce?
I am not very active at night game, but I think you have to win over her friends, regardless. When they trust you, and they see that she is having fun with you, then it's easy to bounce her.

Otherwise, this reply could mean you are pulling too early. Then you take a step back. Maybe even roll off, and come back later. Ideally with another girl that you introduce to her, haha.

That's how I see it. Perhaps someone more experienced in bars will have a better solution.
 

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I am not very active at night game, but I think you have to win over her friends, regardless. When they trust you, and they see that she is having fun with you, then it's easy to bounce her.

Otherwise, this reply could mean you are pulling too early. Then you take a step back. Maybe even roll off, and come back later. Ideally with another girl that you introduce to her, haha.

That's how I see it. Perhaps someone more experienced in bars will have a better solution.
Definitely the most common objection I’m getting. Something I’ll continue to work on
 

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keep going. It's a numbers game. Approach. Find the girls who are attracted and receptive (usually quite obvious)
When you find them, escalate.

You can't control rejection. You could be doing everything perfectly, but if you are only opening girls who aren't attracted, then all you do is move on to the next one. Nothing to 'learn' other than you weren't her type. Good game means you bang a high percentage of the girls who think you are hot, basically.

25 approaches is good. Back when I cared more about getting laid and was putting in some good numbers getting my lay count way up there, I used too approach 25-40 girls per night lol
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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yeah I’d probably tone it down a few notches. if you live in a smallish town you might need to be more cautious and strategic about approaching that many babes

what ever happened to just getting loaded at bars and hanging out and drinking and shooting pool chatting with various women that way? If was not trying to get sober long term that’s the first place I’d be.

if it’s a late night bar like til 3-4am that’s a good option. Or a hipster beer bar. a wine bar. A hotel bar. a country bar Shooting darts. There are women hanging out

by me there’s packed restaurants with like 90% well dressed women just hanging with other rich women living it up with no dudes. It’s like only women can afford such nonsense
 

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you need a coach. in person. so they can see wtf u doing. Theres dudes banging chicks without trying. You got grit but it doesnt matter if you're not attractive. The goal is to get their coochie wet, not for you to spam approach.
Either that or a lot of practice.
 
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