“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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OP didn't say he was looking for wife-material. He just had a spur of the moment chance to get laid and took it. Historically, that is exactly what a lay/field report is all about. These posts condemning the fact this woman may have left her kids alone for a few hours (for all we know someone came over to be with them after they left or maybe even before) are pretty silly, and frankly a bit surprising. At the end of the day, this is a seduction forum.

Had OP said he was in love and wants an LTR with this woman, then yes. Bring out the red-flag talk. Otherwise, give me a break. Good job, OP.
 

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as Mark Manson says, game is played on the 'yes girls' lol. Whether it's cold approach or tinder or whatever else. Ain't nobody out there jedi mind tricking girls who aren't attracted into wanting them. Even with the 'coaches' who claim this mystical ability, their own infields prove otherwise and contradict them. We give the word 'seduction' too much credit lol
As I said, post the chat and let’s see if any innuendo was being used that would have implied immediately dtf. The seduction would have been going straight for it on the app and not wasting money on drinks. She was obviously always going to.
 

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OP didn't say he was looking for wife-material. He just had a spur of the moment chance to get laid and took it. Historically, that is exactly what a lay/field report is all about. These posts condemning the fact this woman may have left her kids alone for a few hours (for all we know someone came over to be with them after they left or maybe even before) are pretty silly, and frankly a bit surprising. At the end of the day, this is a seduction forum.

Had OP said he was in love and wants an LTR with this woman, then yes. Bring out the red-flag talk. Otherwise, give me a break. Good job, OP.
I guess it has to do with the personal standards people have for themselves.

I'm learning that apparently many have no standards which probably explains why they have the issues they do with relationships and other areas of life since that does not exist in a vacuum.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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I guess it has to do with the personal standards people have for themselves.

I'm learning that apparently many have no standards which probably explains why they have the issues they do with relationships and other areas of life since that does not exist in a vacuum.
The Don Juan was never interested in slam pigs.
 

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The virtue signaling has me speechless!
Yeah, I'm surprised what I'm reading here honestly...

EDIT: If anyone read The Art of Seduction, seduction is to "lead astray", which is exactly what OP did. It's described that you cannot seduce somebody who is satisfied, because they do not want. This woman wanted OP, he recognized that, and they both got what they wanted. Her morals regarding the lengths she was willing to go to get what she wanted, and how much OP's actions influenced that, shouldn't fall on OP for having a "bad judge of character" or something - especially when he knows nothing about the woman.
 
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The virtue signaling has me speechless!
It's no different in anything else in life.

Show me someone who eats junk food and sugary processed garbage all day and I will show you someone who is most likely obese and heading for diabetes if they don't already have it.

Show me someone that spends all their time around people going nowhere in life or going to jail, and I will show you a person who is likely going nowhere in life and many times will end up in jail just like them.

That's my whole point. Life doesn't exist in vacuums, the same principles that apply to standards apply across your entire life.

You are what you eat and you are who you associate most with are expressions for a reason. Because they are true.

Call it virtue, call it whatever you want really. At the end of the day it's simply reality.
 

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OP, I’m assuming the reaction you got is not what you expected, and that is likely due to the fact that an easy conquest has lower value than a difficult one.

That said, what I propose is that you take control of how you experience validation, rather than placing it in the hands of your friends, societal perception, or girlfriends, recognize that you decide who you allow to judge your life and how much weight their opinions carry. Seek validation in the appropriate places, especially from yourself for your identity and self-worth.
 
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OP, I’m assuming the reaction you got is not what you expected, and that is likely due to the fact that an easy conquest has lower value than a difficult one.

That said, what I propose is that you take control of how you experience validation, rather than placing it in the hands of your friends, societal perception, or girlfriends, recognize that you decide who you allow to judge your life and how much weight their opinions carry. Seek validation in the appropriate places, especially from yourself for your identity and self-worth.
In my case it was not necessarily from that, but more so based on the totality of posts by OP over time that display the same sort of thing...

I guess that's where I differ from many. Unfortunately at times, I have a very good memory and when I respond to posts many times I am recalling information from other posts and basing my response on not only the post I am replying to but the totality of the information I have on my brain about the poster.
 

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It's no different in anything else in life.

Show me someone who eats junk food and sugary processed garbage all day and I will show you someone who is most likely obese and heading for diabetes if they don't already have it.

Show me someone that spends all their time around people going nowhere in life or going to jail, and I will show you a person who is likely going nowhere in life and many times will end up in jail just like them.

That's my whole point. Life doesn't exist in vacuums, the same principles that apply to standards apply across your entire life.

You are what you eat and you are who you associate most with are expressions for a reason. Because they are true.

Call it virtue, call it whatever you want really. At the end of the day it's simply reality.
It's just a good time, some drinks, and some sex. That's the simple reality. You have never done this?
 

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It's no different in anything else in life.

Show me someone who eats junk food and sugary processed garbage all day and I will show you someone who is most likely obese and heading for diabetes if they don't already have it.

Show me someone that spends all their time around people going nowhere in life or going to jail, and I will show you a person who is likely going nowhere in life and many times will end up in jail just like them.

That's my whole point. Life doesn't exist in vacuums, the same principles that apply to standards apply across your entire life.

You are what you eat and you are who you associate most with are expressions for a reason. Because they are true.

Call it virtue, call it whatever you want really. At the end of the day it's simply reality.
OP wanted some pvssy and got it. Any morality issue here (if it even exists) lies with the woman and not with OP. If his only goal was a quick lay, why does the woman's background matter at all? If she was a multi-millionaire who had hired a nanny while the kids stayed at home for this "date" would you be OK with it? How does this in any way impact his own character to the point it even needs to be mentioned?

Unless you are just saying ONS in general are not a good thing.
 
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It's just a good time, some drinks, and some sex. That's the simple reality. You have never done this?
Not with a women who decides it's a good idea to leave her kids home alone to meet up with a stranger and fvck in a car.

Never have and never will. That's an auto disqualification.
 

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OP wanted some pvssy and got it. Any morality issue here (if it even exists) lies with the woman and not with OP. If his only goal was a quick lay, why does the woman's background matter at all? If she was a multi-millionaire who had hired a nanny while the kids stayed at home for this "date" would you be OK with it? How does this in any way impact his own character to the point it even needs to be mentioned?

Unless you are just saying ONS in general are not a good thing.
If you associate with gutter level human beings, you will become a gutter-level human being. I suggest you go back and read OPs thread history before you comment further.

We are commenting on two different things. You are commenting on a single incident (which is questionable as is at best), I am bringing in the entirely of my memory of threads by OP, which unfortunately as I explained in an earlier post is usually significant, since I tend to remember far more than I would like about random details many times.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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If you associate with gutter level human beings, you will become a gutter-level human being. I suggest you go back and read OPs thread history before you comment further.

We are commenting on two different things. You are commenting on a single incident (which is questionable as is at best), I am bringing in the entirely of my memory of threads by OP, which unfortunately as I explained in an earlier post is usually significant, since I tend to remember far more than I would like about random details many times.
The kids were 10 and 12, my Mom used to leave my sister and I at home on occasion when we were as young or younger. While she may be a Boomer, I wouldn't call her a gutter person. Her jewelry collection alone is probably worth millions.

The term "latchkey kids" exists for a reason. A very common phenomenon for Gen-X kids, and we turned out to be the least insufferable of the current generations.
 

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Not with a women who decides it's a good idea to leave her kids home alone to meet up with a stranger and fvck in a car.

Never have and never will. That's an auto disqualification.
I disagree. I don't see a problem leaving a 10 and 12 yo at home for a few hours. But my mom wasnt a helicopter mom either and I had a lot of freedom. We are a product of how we were raised.
 

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If you associate with gutter level human beings, you will become a gutter-level human being. I suggest you go back and read OPs thread history before you comment further.

We are commenting on two different things. You are commenting on a single incident (which is questionable as is at best), I am bringing in the entirely of my memory of threads by OP, which unfortunately as I explained in an earlier post is usually significant, since I tend to remember far more than I would like about random details many times.
I’m commenting on the OP’s original post. You’re commenting apparently on the content of his posting history as a whole. Regardless, why the woman’s choice to maybe leave her 10 and 12 year old at home alone during his date with her has any significance to OP’s lay report I’m still not seeing. I don’t think it reflects on OP’s character at all. We’ll agree to disagree.
 

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I disagree. I don't see a problem leaving a 10 and 12 yo at home for a few hours. But my mom wasnt a helicopter mom either and I had a lot of freedom. We are a product of how we were raised.
Why this small footnote in the OP’s original post has become the main focus in this thread is a bit ridiculous in the first place.
 

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Why this small footnote in the OP’s original post has become the main focus in this thread is a bit ridiculous in the first place.
Right. If he'd have left it as simple as "She's a single mom" it is quite likely no one would have been even mildly curious how old the children were.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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