"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Do you think a lot of in-shape men go for fatties because they are used to their mothers being fat?

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I was watching this amazing cattle auctioneer and his mother, and it got me thinking:

 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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"Do you think a lot of in-shape men go for fatties because they are used to their mothers being fat?"

Nah... That's an activity one resorts to, once he bores of actual swine, succumbs to those fantasies of

-Abducting a Melissa McCarthy lookalike from a Target parking lot at quarter to 10 one evening

-Jamming a sharpened steel rod up her poopshoot, and straight through the top of her skull

-Roasting the remains over that firepit in the back yard he spent all weekend digging

Come to think of it, a dude DOES have to he fairly fit, to successfully execute such a scheme
 
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It's because fat women will take care of a in shape guy, let him drive her car, pay rent, give him money etc.
I've seen this and even experienced it to some degree
But an overweight woman will finance an in shape guy's life

Here is the kicker, those guys are most likely cheating on her, and due to some women having low self-esteem they will put up with it
We used to call those hobosexuals
 

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Probably variety, and some guys are just into that, especially if they are into outercourse. There is more to do outercourse with a fattie. (ie between her tits, butt cheeks, belly button, etc....). Outercourse is virtually 0% chance of contracting an STD being totally unprotected.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Probably variety, and some guys are just into that, especially if they are into outercourse. There is more to do outercourse with a fattie. (ie between her tits, butt cheeks, belly button, etc....). Outercourse is virtually 0% chance of contracting an STD being totally unprotected.
Outercourse! :D:rofl::eek:

This reminds of the old joke about how to fork a fat chick - just roll her around in flour and look for the wet spot. :eek::eek:
 

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Outercourse is virtually 0% chance of contracting an STD being totally unprotected
It depends on what you call an STD. Herpes is spread by skin to skin contact, and has evolved to be able to live all over the body, not just the lips and genitals. College wrestling programs have had their season shut down over giving each other herpes. I've also seen guys in jiu jitsu spread around ringworm and MRSA, the drug resistant staph that is like leprosy if left untreated.
 

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It's because they have low standards.
Bbw escorts are making allot of money. Its not lower standards, its fetish and social pressure. In fact, even in ancient cultures, the fat bbws are put on a pedistle. That is why their goddess are depicting fat bbw women. Slimmer women is just modern western conditioning. Conditioned standards have cracks that show over time.
 

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Bbw escorts are making allot of money. Its not lower standards, its fetish and social pressure. In fact, even in ancient cultures, the fat bbws are put on a pedistle. That is why their goddess are depicting fat bbw women. Slimmer women is just modern western conditioning. Conditioned standards have cracks that show over time.
Thank God there are men that want them so there are more hotties for me.

They can go ride the waves of fat.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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It depends on what you call an STD. Herpes is spread by skin to skin contact, and has evolved to be able to live all over the body, not just the lips and genitals. College wrestling programs have had their season shut down over giving each other herpes. I've also seen guys in jiu jitsu spread around ringworm and MRSA, the drug resistant staph that is like leprosy if left untreated.
Use hand sanitizer or make sure she showers first.
 

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Thank God there are men that want them so there are more hotties for me.

They can go ride the waves of fat.
You dont use hotter escort, so its not more hotter escorts available to book from for you, lol! What I am saying is if what you were saying is true, bbw escorts would not exist since nobody would pay for that if they can pay the same for hotter women.
 

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Showers don't prevent STDs. However, if you want to titty-fvck fat hookers with hand sanitizer as lube, you might be on to something. That could be the next big thing.
A little slippery hot dog action never hurt anyone! Although depending on how fat they are, you might not be able to get down low enough if you are straddling them to get your d!ck in between their tits of their belly is in the way :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Breasts themselves are not a typical transmission site for herpes.


Here’s how to think about it:

1. Breast skin = normal skin

  • The skin on the breasts is regular, intact skin, similar to arms or thighs
  • Herpes does not easily infect or pass through healthy skin like this
2. When transmission could theoretically happen

This would require very specific conditions, such as:


  • An active herpes sore directly on the breast or nipple (this is rare)
  • Prolonged direct contact
  • And often broken skin or contact with a mucous membrane (mouth/genitals)

Without those factors, transmission doesn’t realistically occur.

3. What about nipples?

  • Nipples are slightly more sensitive than surrounding skin
  • But without an active lesion, they are not a practical risk
  • Casual contact or brushing against someone is not a concern
4. Real-world reassurance

  • Herpes spreads primarily through:
    • Kissing (mouth/lips)
    • Sexual contact (genital areas)
  • Not through general body skin contact like breasts, torso, or hands
Bottom line:

  • ✔ No sores + intact breast skin = no meaningful transmission risk
  • ✔ Herpes is not quietly spreading through everyday skin contact
  • ✔ You do not need to be on guard about normal human closeness

There’s a lot of exaggerated fear around herpes. In reality, transmission requires direct contact with oral or genital skin where the virus is shedding. Casual touch, body contact, breasts, thighs, or clothed contact are not meaningful risks. Outercourse is therefore much lower risk than oral or penetrative sex, though no sexual contact is zero-risk.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Who thinks of this sh-t?

I’m no stranger to in-shape people. How common is this?
 

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I was watching this amazing cattle auctioneer and his mother, and it got me thinking:

His mother is an old woman - probably around 70 years old, her body certainly did not look like that when she was 20-something.
 

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In fact, even in ancient cultures, the fat bbws are put on a pedistle. That is why their goddess are depicting fat bbw women.
Yeah, and some God's in the past had multiple heads and multiple hands. I think some gods were not even human, but animals like Goats and cows.

Slimmer women is just modern western conditioning. Conditioned standards have cracks that show over time.
Attractiveness is signified by being able to have healthy babies, being able to survive the environment (mentally smart enough, physically capable enough, etc).

.Attractiveness cannot imho be a conditioned standard because certain aspects go counter to the above. For example being fat, a woman has a lower chance of reproducing, will die sooner (if she is able to reproduce, she will not be able to reproduce as many, etc). Also, in the past for the majority of women being fat will not allow her gather food as well.. or run away from danger.

there are certain small intervals of time where being fat was a status symbol (being a king, queen, part of the upper class) which signify that that person had the means to be fat even though for most of the population being fat was a burden. In that case, its more of a fetish.. not the mainstrean or what got young men to have hard ons.

what got men hard ons have been fairly consistent throughout history since that is what caused humans to reproduce and not die out.
 

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Bbw escorts are making allot of money. Its not lower standards, its fetish and social pressure. In fact, even in ancient cultures, the fat bbws are put on a pedistle. That is why their goddess are depicting fat bbw women. Slimmer women is just modern western conditioning. Conditioned standards have cracks that show over time.
In a society where famine was a regular phenomenon (i.e. most ancient societies), being fat was a rare accomplishment and an indicator of great wealth and status. In contrast, in a society where food is abundant, fetishized and largely unhealthy (modern-day America), NOT being fat is an accomplishment.
 

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Considering like 70% of women are fat, no. If that was the case, chubby chasing would be the norm.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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