“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Troubling new trend: women on dating apps demand dinner dates

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Chilis WTF? I haven't been to A chilis in over 10 years, that place still open?
Same lol. I've had the best results at Postinos because it gives the ambience of a fancy wine bar and there's food too. I live in fricking Houston, Texas I am not dealing with complicated logistics for a girl I have never met in person before. I found that bars can be just as expensive or more than going to a Chilis or Postinos. In addition, I am not doing or pitching a coffee date on a Tuesday at 7pm.
 

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Let me play the opposite advocate.



































You match with this chick below and tell her let's do coffee she says no let's do dinner, you really going to unmatch my guy?

It happened to me something similar, I didnt unmatch but I stopped asking to meet...we stayed on each other match till I deleted the app but didnt talk.

That's low interest in plain sight for what I consider (plus a boring expensive meal).
 

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Another distburting trend which isn't new is women asking for money directly or indirectly ("looking for a man to spoil me") or ("lookng for a man who is generous")

I got a lot of these when I had some pics up on my profile in a suit, some of these where scammers obviously others where sugar babies offering their "nonsexual company" for a fee. I notice typically I get this from younger women (25 or so) hence I moved my age up to 27
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Another distburting trend which isn't new is women asking for money directly or indirectly ("looking for a man to spoil me") or ("lookng for a man who is generous")

I got a lot of these when I had some pics up on my profile in a suit, some of these where scammers obviously others where sugar babies offering their "nonsexual company" for a fee. I notice typically I get this from younger women (25 or so) hence I moved my age up to 27
I remember I once had a woman basically demand I pay for her to get her nails done and I turbo unmatched that b!tch so fast... Makes screening out these kinds of women very easy though!
 

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You match with this chick below and tell her let's do coffee she says no let's do dinner, you really going to unmatch my guy?

She's likely testing to see whether or not you'll capitulate, and may not even look like that in RL. Stick to your guns
 

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Another distburting trend which isn't new is women asking for money directly or indirectly...
Anna Bey(Who's done some admirable work, in other respects)bears a fair amount of responsibility on this front... She's at least twice opined to her audience(a target demographic that's mostly female)that it's A-OK to ask a man they're not even married to for financial aid

Which is only marginally less absurd than a dude asking a complete stranger he sat beside once on Amtrack to bump his ex off, all because he saw such a thing occur in a Hitchcock movie
 

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Got this from Reddit, lol at this broad asking for caviar I just can't
I seriously blame simps for this, bitches wouldn't have the audacity if suckers and simps wouldn't indulge them
This is still pretty cringe on her part tho, this is why I only do coffee dates or Drink at my condo dates
 

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Got this from Reddit, lol at this broad asking for caviar I just can't
I seriously blame simps for this, bitches wouldn't have the audacity if suckers and simps wouldn't indulge them
This is still pretty cringe on her part tho, this is why I only do coffee dates or Drink at my condo dates
No offense man, but when you make it about the money you are basically saying that she is not worth it. Which s8cks big time for women :)

way better to do what @The Duke said, let’s grab a drink first then we can get caviar

but yeah, if you are not willing to spend money or make it about money, you look very cheap :)

no one likes cheap people, not even other guys
 

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No offense man, but when you make it about the money you are basically saying that she is not worth it. Which s8cks big time for women :)

way better to do what @The Duke said, let’s grab a drink first then we can get caviar

but yeah, if you are not willing to spend money or make it about money, you look very cheap :)

no one likes cheap people, not even other guys
Sure, there might be better ways to phrase the alternative options but the point is that you don't want to sink time into a woman that is going to equate your value to how much you spend on her.
 

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Sure, there might be better ways to phrase the alternative options but the point is that you don't want to sink time into a woman that is going to equate your value to how much you spend on her.
BINGO!

If it's pay for play might as well get a hooker, you can get a ******* as soon as she walks in the door and you skip the dinner part and small talk b.s.
 

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BINGO!

If it's pay for play might as well get a hooker, you can get a ******* as soon as she walks in the door and you skip the dinner part and small talk b.s.
prostitutes are by the hour. To spend a night with a good looking prostitutes costs a fortune, while potentially with a girl like that costs you maybe a couple of drinks + something to eat

don’t get me wrong, I totally understand that they are prostituting one way or the other, but you just get way better ROI with these semi pros than with pros
 

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prostitutes are by the hour. To spend a night with a good looking prostitutes costs a fortune, while potentially with a girl like that costs you maybe a couple of drinks + something to eat

don’t get me wrong, I totally understand that they are prostituting one way or the other, but you just get way better ROI with these semi pros than with pros
If a woman wants to dictate terms of engagement it's a no for me, like most members and personal experience if a woman really likes you it doesn't matter what you do. I'm not opposed to buying drinks or even food I have done it all before, my issue is if a woman tries to dictate that right away, it clearly shows a lack of sincere interest or at best a sense of entitlement
 

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If a woman wants to dictate terms of engagement it's a no for me, like most members and personal experience if a woman really likes you it doesn't matter what you do. I'm not opposed to buying drinks or even food I have done it all before, my issue is if a woman tries to dictate that right away, it clearly shows a lack of sincere interest or at best a sense of entitlement
Women are silly and cute, they should not be taken too seriously
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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This seems to be a growing trend. You'd offer to meet for drinks and they would decline but say that they are open to meeting for dinner instead. I promptly un-match these dinner wh0res but can't help wondering what's behind this seemingly new trend? It certainly wasn't like that even a couple of years ago. Is it because of social media and female "influencers" telling women to "know their worth" and demand free dinners? Has anyone else noticed this?
Another thing I've noticed trending slightly is that women will tell you upfront that they are banging some guy who has a girlfriend (or wife)but looking for an LTR and want you to take them on a date. I found it's typically older women who do this who are just recently single(most likely they think they are being transpearnt). Personally, I do not take these women out even for drinks or even bother. I'm not naive to think that most women you meet on apps aren't banging someone else, but if a women volunteer that information unsolicited it's a huge turn of for me, it just gives the energy that they want you to jump through hoops. **** that, curious what @Bokanovsky thinks about women telling you they are in a situaitonship or fwb right away and expect a date still
 

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You'd offer to meet for drinks and they would decline but say that they are open to meeting for dinner instead
They either don't drink or they make it a point not to drink on dates.

I promptly un-match these dinner wh0res
I believe the term is "tarelochnitsa", same as propaganda, perestroika, vodka, it's a Russian word meaning plate-*****.

can't help wondering what's behind this seemingly new trend
Women are getting successful, they earn same as men. Here in comes more careful picking of mates. It don't mean that she wants you to buy her a dinner, instead it's more about what she don't wants, a bum that drinks. Price of the P just went up. In Russia this has been happening for the past 10 years, it finally hit the west.

Here comes new venue into play, not a bar where alcohol is served and people get drunk, but hookah, a place where you can do absolutely useless thing, but it's popular and high end. Other venues include sports, tennis for example, think a hot session, a shower, and a coffee date in one. Coffee seems to be the cheapest option.

Yea, but go get hammered, seems to be going out of normalcy of things to do on weekends.
 

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Another thing I've noticed trending slightly is that women will tell you upfront that they are banging some guy who has a girlfriend (or wife)but looking for an LTR and want you to take them on a date. I found it's typically older women who do this who are just recently single(most likely they think they are being transpearnt). Personally, I do not take these women out even for drinks or even bother. I'm not naive to think that most women you meet on apps aren't banging someone else, but if a women volunteer that information unsolicited it's a huge turn of for me, it just gives the energy that they want you to jump through hoops. **** that, curious what @Bokanovsky thinks about women telling you they are in a situaitonship or fwb right away and expect a date still
Can't say I've ever encountered anything like that. It would be a waste of breath to even talk to a woman like that, let alone take her out on a date.
 
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