"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Where do you live, and how much does it cost?

BPH

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One of my ongoing pain points is the fact that I live at home with my parents.

My current job can be done remotely, but my employer wants me in-office, and wants me to basically work 2 jobs. I'd really love to be able to find remote work that matches or beats my current pay so I can move out and not have that impact my job while I work on my coaching business.

What I'm finding is that it's almost impossible to find places under $1,300/month that aren't pieces of sh**, or require roommates.

So I'm just curious where you guys live and how much it's costing you to live there.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Bible_Belt

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I can set you up with a 2 bedroom, 1.5 bath trailer for $500 a month. Quarter acre wooded lot, rural setting, no visible neighbors. It's in Southern Illinois, but honestly you could probably find a similar deal in much of rural America.
 

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One of my ongoing pain points is the fact that I live at home with my parents.
That's a huge pain point.

You have come close to matching Roosh's lifestyle that he wrote about in 2011 as a 31 year old at that time.

You are employed and Roosh was a content creator with a blog, some books, and maybe a YouTube presence then.


My current job can be done remotely, but my employer wants me in-office, and wants me to basically work 2 jobs. I'd really love to be able to find remote work that matches or beats my current pay so I can move out and not have that impact my job while I work on my coaching business.
The labor market right now is tight so you'll need to stay at your current job for a while. This basically confines you to living in Wilmington or possibly Philadelphia.

What I'm finding is that it's almost impossible to find places under $1,300/month that aren't pieces of sh**, or require roommates.
Most major cities are like that. The most mediocre 1 bedroom apartments in Dallas, TX run around $1,100 - $1,300 right now.

I have seen some apartment listings in some Dallas suburbs where a mediocre apartment might run $1,000 - $1,200 but you're in a suburban neighborhood not near the best neighborhoods for singles in Dallas.

There are crapholes in Dallas and its suburbs that are even around $1,000/low $1,000s now.
 

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Most major cities are like that.
It's not even major cities.

I think I found only 1 listing under $1,300 near me, and it's to rent a room out of a house with 4 roommates.

Most listings in Newark are $1,500+.

I was only able to find 1 or 2 under $1,300 near Trolley Square, or in Wilmington as a whole.

Philadelphia is the most affordable, but there have also been more than 100 shooting incidents within the last 30 days.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Have you checked outside the Philly subs? Rents all over are crazy. Landlords needs to raise rents to cover taxes, insurance, upkeep, etc. These are passed on to the tenants; usually. You may be able to snag a studio for around 1k.

Around here, a one bedroom is around 2k.
 

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Move overseas bro. Go to Thailand, Indonesia, The Philippines, etc There’s expat communities out here you can go to, plus it feels great to see the commotions happening in The US , 8,000 miles away, while you’re on your hammock sipping on Coronas and watching the NBA playoffs all from the comfort of your own phone or laptop.
 

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I'm in the Twin Cities a 1 bedroom will run you $1400-$1800. This is in the burbs 10-15 minutes away from Downtown.
If you want to live downtonw It's going to run you $2000-$10000 if you wanna be where the smoke shows and bomb shells are at
If you really want to save money you can get a place for $900-$1500 a nice 2 bedroom 2 bath house or even 3 bedroom but you're going to live 2-3 hours in the sticks away from the city.

Plus, side a college town where the girls are loose and want to have fun....yeehaw JimmyBob!
 

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I'm retired and will soon move into a custom-built 3000+ ft^2 home on 1.6 wooded acres about 15 miles away from a large suburb in the Sunbelt. The total project should cost me about $500K, which is about 1/5 of my net worth. I'm also paying about $800/mo for my pied-à-terre in Eastern Europe, but I might upgrade.

Most everyone here HeightMogs me, but I FinanceMog most everyone here.
 
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Move overseas bro. Go to Thailand, Indonesia, The Philippines, etc There’s expat communities out here you can go to, plus it feels great to see the commotions happening in The US , 8,000 miles away, while you’re on your hammock sipping on Coronas and watching the NBA playoffs all from the comfort of your own phone or laptop.
I watch my sports at StreamEast. Night games in the USA go until sunlight (referenced to the equinoxes) where I'm at.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I can set you up with a 2 bedroom, 1.5 bath trailer for $500 a month. Quarter acre wooded lot, rural setting, no visible neighbors. It's in Southern Illinois, but honestly you could probably find a similar deal in much of rural America.
Like around Herrin, LOL?
 

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@BPH have you checked Craigslist? I just did a brief search (less than a minute) and found at least 10 under $1,300.

Here's one for $1,150, small but looks decent, wood floors, bay windows.

I'm not familiar with the area tho.

Craigslist is iffy, lots of scams at least in my neck but I dunno, it may be worth a look; there's an upcoming open house.

 
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@BPH have you checked Craigslist? I just did a brief search (less than a minute) and found at least 10 under $1,300.

Here's one for $1,150, small but looks decent, wood floors, bay windows.

I'm not familiar with the area tho.

Craigslist is iffy, lots of scams at least in my neck but I dunno, it may be worth a look; there's an upcoming open house.

I would not be looking to live in the city of Wilmington. I currently live in the suburbs. This would be like paying $1,300/mo to simply not be at home, while also not being near any of the fun, and increasing my chance of being a victim exponentially:

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I would not be looking to live in the city of Wilmington. I currently live in the suburbs. This would be like paying $1,300/mo to simply not be at home, while also not being near any of the fun, and increasing my chance of being a victim exponentially:

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What about Dover? Isn't DE so small that everything is close by?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Move overseas bro. Go to Thailand, Indonesia, The Philippines, etc There’s expat communities out here you can go to, plus it feels great to see the commotions happening in The US , 8,000 miles away, while you’re on your hammock sipping on Coronas and watching the NBA playoffs all from the comfort of your own phone or laptop.
Most US companies will not allow people who try that even if they are remote due to tax complications, unless you take a position that's open from that country along with the much lower pay if they have any
 

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Oh k, based on the below post, it sounded like you were open to living in Wilmington but couldn't find anything decent under $1,300.

Nevermind then my bad. I'll leave you to it, good luck....
I was only able to find 1 or 2 under $1,300 near Trolley Square, or in Wilmington as a whole.
 

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Oh k, based on the below post, it sounded like you were open to living in Wilmington but couldn't find anything decent under $1,300.

Nevermind then my bad. I'll leave you to it, good luck....
No worries, I wouldn't expect you to. Wilmington is a very large, broad area. I was referring to areas somewhat close to where I already currently live, or in spots that would at least be near the fun parts of town; Trolley, Newark, etc.

I once went to a bar in Wilmington and was quite literally the only white person I saw there.
 

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Most US companies will not allow people who try that even if they are remote due to tax complications, unless you take a position that's open from that country along with the much lower pay if they have any
Dover is about a 40-minute drive from where I'm at, which would mean about 1 hour and 10 minutes to my work. It's also not really near anything. Southern Delaware becomes more akin to farmland.
 

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So I'm just curious where you guys live and how much it's costing you to live there.
On the road now, and living out of hotels(Even the ritzy ones)is infinitely more economical the suburbs of Santa Monica, or a penthouse in Georgetown. Though(I imagine anyway)this could be unnerving, if one's being pursued by The US Marshals in the process
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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