"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Female to male ratio in Ukraine is like 20 to 1

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Well there you go. What could go wrong?
 

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Time to go to Ukraine and do some pickup sessions? :p:cool:
(Please spare us all of the moral bs)
Thoughts?
I'll spare you the moral BS but I won't spare a dose of common sense.

Consider that (a) millions of Ukrainian refugees have left the country after Russia invaded, (b) it is illegal for men who are over 18 to leave Ukraine, and (c) old people are much less likely to leave. That means that the vast majority of people who left Ukraine were young and middle aged women.

Also consider the fact that Ukrainian authorities are known to raid nightclubs, concert halls and other public venue in search for fighting age men who are evading the draft. That's the reason why you don't see many men in that video. But that doesn't mean there aren't any men left. In fact, I would venture a guess that there are actually more men than women in Ukraine right now due to the massive outflow of refugees.
 

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They'd pick up the chicks for the front too if it didn't mean alienating their main support demographic for the war, that being western liberal white women.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Lol I heard somewhere that China hacked into America's cellphone companies and can possibly look into all our conversations and texts and what not.......something is possibly escalating in the future
 

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You guys are all just saying the obvious which is why I wrote " (Please spare us all of the moral bs)".
My point if you put that all aside. There is a possibility that they will sign a peace treaty so my point is that in a country like that the dating dynamics must have changed a lot in a favorable way for men in terms of pickup....
 
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Their men were just conscripted en masse to fight in a war. Ukrainian women aren't going to go for some Western guy testing out negs and a$$hole game.
The female "operating system" is hardcoded and works basically all the same all over the world. Ukrainian women isn't an exception. In a environment were women have to compete much more than normal because there is less high quality men must change part of how the game functions. Right?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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The female "operating system" is hardcoded and works basically all the same all over the world. Ukrainian women isn't an exception. In a environment were women have to compete much more than normal because there is less high quality men must change part of how the game functions. Right?
Only one way to find out, you can go there. But if you're good with women you will be good wherever you go so that's a self-fulfilling thing. I don't think statistics are going to matter much. And "compete" is the operative word, they will compete for Men, and will probably rather share a battle-hardened Ukrainian man than settle for a doughy American whose idea of hard times is when the WiFi doesn't work. (Not you - just your average Western dude.)

But for instance you could also move to UAE where the male:female ratio is out of whack (more men) and you'd still probably kill it because you know what to do.
 

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Only one way to find out, you can go there. But if you're good with women you will be good wherever you go so that's a self-fulfilling thing. I don't think statistics are going to matter much. And "compete" is the operative word, they will compete for Men, and will probably rather share a battle-hardened Ukrainian man than settle for a doughy American whose idea of hard times is when the WiFi doesn't work. (Not you - just your average Western dude.)

But for instance you could also move to UAE where the male:female ratio is out of whack (more men) and you'd still probably kill it because you know what to do.
Its all just a hypertheoretical conversation this thread and I have no plans currently of going there myself.
I just think its interesting the current situation where the numbers are so extremely askew to one side like in this case where there is loads of chicks and very few guys. In the end this ends up in the same issue as the passport bros, if you move her to your country she will be and end up like any other chick in your country so its a zero sum game where you lose no matter what you do. The only option is to stay in her country if you are the type of guy looking for an IRL. However if you are just looking for some party and fun then you'll have plenty of options - yes back home too in your own country, but you might find it easier to pull and "score" in such an environment at least in theoretical sense.
 

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Maybe wait until the bombs stop dropping before venturing out, or not.
Ukrainian women are hot though. If the US gets a long term contract to drill there, it could be a generational opportunity to build wealth and smash tons and tons of Ukrainian women.
 

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As someone who has been an ex-pat in BOTH warring countries, and current in the main one where the Ukrainian refugees have mainly settled, I must interject. From what I have read, it seems that a lot of the young, single Ukrainian women have used the opportunity to emigrate to the EU as refugees, and might very well never come back. :( (Of course, the effect of this is to diffuse themselves into their immigrant countries, so those places have more young women around. :)) Next, the Ukrainian leadership has been wise in not blowing a hole in its demographics by conscripting young men, but rather older men - although that might change. And ironically, it is Mother Russia that has the better demographics now, as a lot of men have become HIMARS fodder, or have absconded to places like Georgia - which I am sure is now the worst sausage fest the world has even seen outside of Williston, ND :mad: - and they probably won't go back.

Of course, I could be wrong:
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Its all just a hypertheoretical conversation this thread and I have no plans currently of going there myself.
I just think its interesting the current situation where the numbers are so extremely askew to one side like in this case where there is loads of chicks and very few guys. In the end this ends up in the same issue as the passport bros, if you move her to your country she will be and end up like any other chick in your country so its a zero sum game where you lose no matter what you do. The only option is to stay in her country if you are the type of guy looking for an IRL. However if you are just looking for some party and fun then you'll have plenty of options - yes back home too in your own country, but you might find it easier to pull and "score" in such an environment at least in theoretical sense.
I know an American guy that had bought a place in Kherson as his wife was from there; I can only think that that place is now a total loss.
 

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... they will compete for Men, and will probably rather share a battle-hardened Ukrainian man than settle for a doughy American whose idea of hard times is when the WiFi doesn't work. (Not you - just your average Western dude.)
Yes, I can only presume that any war veteran would mog the sheet out of a civilian Westerner; that said, a Western "foreign legionnaire" warrior there would outmog everyone.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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