Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Handsiness and age

GoodMan32

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I mentioned on a recent post that older broads have generally been much handsier with me than younger broads.

I suppose the topic warrants its own discussion.

Has anyone else noticed the same pattern? Or have younger broads been handsier in your experience?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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That's interesting to hear your experience has been the same as mine. I think I recall another poster saying the opposite.
This happens to me, usually at work, heh. It's more of a case by case thing, imo. Younger women tend to be more bashful the older I get.
 

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This happens to me, usually at work, heh. It's more of a case by case thing, imo. Younger women tend to be more bashful the older I get.
Four years ago, I trained a handsy 60 year old woman.

And then there's currently a handsy woman in her 60s at a different company in my office building.

A female customer I'd estimate was in her 40s rubbed my back at a store where I used to work.

A 60-ish woman in my condo building has acted handsy with me right in front of her husband.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Four years ago, I trained a handsy 60 year old woman.

And then there's currently a handsy woman in her 60s at a different company in my office building.

A female customer I'd estimate was in her 40s rubbed my back at a store where I used to work.

A 60-ish woman in my condo building has acted handsy with me right in front of her husband.
Isn't that gay? To look forward to an older woman being handsy with you. I mean, women of that age have hands that are more masculine than the hands of guys who are 40yrs old and younger. :rolleyes:
 

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You know why? Because a sixty-year-old woman doesn't give an airborne copulation about being sloot-shamed. Quite the opposite, she only improves her reputation as a man-eater giving young men like you an erection.


Why is this autistic observation the subject of a thread on a seduction forum?


No, not really.


It's not a 'pattern', unless you disregard the psychological notion that older people care less about the opinions of the masses, so where young women might care about how they are viewed by society, the old biddies don't give a crap anymore about how they are perceived.


Everyone here under sixty has traumas from drooling old grandmas wanting to slobber them, so while they welcome the 'handsiness' of younger women, they tend to avoid your 'broads' for that same intimacy. Plus, whereas you obviously get excited about 'older women', most of the members here, no matter how thirsty and desperate, will not get aroused from the touch of senior citizens.

Really, dude, no matter how you package this abnormal desire of yours, it will never be acknowledged as normal behaviour.
Handsiness could be viewed as an IOI. The topic of a woman's handsiness most certainly fits on a seduction forum.

Interesting how you make it sound like senior citizens are gross when you yourself look like a senior citizen.
 

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Isn't that gay? To look forward to an older woman being handsy with you. I mean, women of that age have hands that are more masculine than the hands of guys who are 40yrs old and younger. :rolleyes:
A woman's touch feels feminine even if she's older (I would know)

Yeah, her hands look older as she ages. But that says nothing about how her touch feels.
 

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I mentioned on a recent post that older broads have generally been much handsier with me than younger broads.

I suppose the topic warrants its own discussion
No it doesn't. You're one of a handful of 33 year olds on this planet who's hellbent on bedding near/post menopausal women. Your energies will be more well-spent ridding yourself of that fixation
 

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Isn't that gay? To look forward to an older woman being handsy with you. I mean, women of that age have hands that are more masculine than the hands of guys who are 40yrs old and younger. :rolleyes:
GM has stated elsewhere that folks in RL have, more than once, mistaken him for gay
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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You're one of a handful of 33 year olds on this planet who's hellbent on bedding near/post menopausal women. Your energies will be more well-spent ridding yourself of that fixation
This is true. The only way he could rid himself of that fixation is through mental health therapy (likely a combination of medication and talk therapy sessions). He would have to choose to seek the appropriate care for that.
 

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Four years ago, I trained a handsy 60 year old woman.

And then there's currently a handsy woman in her 60s at a different company in my office building.

A female customer I'd estimate was in her 40s rubbed my back at a store where I used to work.

A 60-ish woman in my condo building has acted handsy with me right in front of her husband.
The type of handsiness you're describing isn't especially sexual. It's the sort of casual affection women of all ages in Anglo culture have always enjoyed carte blanche on. Same way there's less stigma in Anglo culture around women using terms of endearment("baby", "babe", "love", "honey")towards total strangers
 

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I mentioned on a recent post that older broads have generally been much handsier with me than younger broads.
Makes sense. More experience = less inhibition.
 

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No it doesn't. You're one of a handful of 33 year olds on this planet who's hellbent on bedding near/post menopausal women. Your energies will be more well-spent ridding yourself of that fixation
My fixation is rooted in a phobia that's not going anywhere.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The type of handsiness you're describing isn't especially sexual. It's the sort of casual affection women of all ages in Anglo culture have always enjoyed carte blanche on. Same way there's less stigma in Anglo culture around women using terms of endearment("baby", "babe", "love", "honey")towards total strangers
Umm, isn't handsiness (and affectionate behavior in general) most common in Latin cultures?
 

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I’m not sure. I haven’t had many experiences with 60-year-olds who aren’t family.

That said, the principle remains the same—if they’re attracted to you, they’ll casually get close, even putting their breasts against your arm, nonchalantly.
 

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Umm, isn't handsiness (and affectionate behavior in general) most common in Latin cultures?
Re-read what I said: In Anglo culture, women generally get more latitude on this front than men do. Obviously, this isn't the case everywhere else on the planet
 

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My fixation is rooted in a phobia that's not going anywhere.
Yes, because you are desperate to hold onto this like a beggar holds onto his last dollar.

Why? Who knows. I'd be working OT to overcome it...you'd rather just give up


You refuse to address it by refusing to seek some combination of talk therapy and medication from mental health professionals.

One might think that getting 20 something year old prime pussie would be enough of a motivation to take action to fix the problem.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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