"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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The Official Thread: Which Car(s) to Get?

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What needs to be done when you're ready to buy a used car is do what insurance companies do when they total a vehicle and negotiate a payout to you. Its called a market analysis.

In your area look on the few car sites and search for vehicles that have the things you're looking for. 4x4, under 85000 miles, fwd, etc... Compare what you see, and use kbb and carfax. This will inform you as to if you're getting a good deal, or over paying based on it's history. When you look at it, take it to a mechanic that you choose to do a bumper to bumper inspection. You may need to make some concessions such as color, or no sun roof or whatever. I did this, and found a vehicle that's 11 years old, with only 1 previous owner and under 26000 miles. I spent every day looking for over a month to finally find it. I had to drive an hour and a half to get it.
Since I’ll be paying for the car outright with cash now, this is what I’ll be doing every day. I’ll consider it my after work “homework.”

I don’t plan on getting a fancy car yet. Also, I’ll have plenty of time since it could take a second to save up for it.

How much did you end up paying for that car out of curiosity? Great deal.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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What needs to be done when you're ready to buy a used car is do what insurance companies do when they total a vehicle and negotiate a payout to you. Its called a market analysis.

In your area look on the few car sites and search for vehicles that have the things you're looking for. 4x4, under 85000 miles, fwd, etc... Compare what you see, and use kbb and carfax. This will inform you as to if you're getting a good deal, or over paying based on it's history. When you look at it, take it to a mechanic that you choose to do a bumper to bumper inspection. You may need to make some concessions such as color, or no sun roof or whatever. I did this, and found a vehicle that's 11 years old, with only 1 previous owner and under 26000 miles. I spent every day looking for over a month to finally find it. I had to drive an hour and a half to get it.
FWIW in today's market you will usually have a hard time getting someone to allow you to take the car to a mech, regardless if the seller is a dealer or an individual. Usually you will have to bring someone with you, meaning you can't put it up on a lift before buying.
 

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The few that I asked just wanted a copy of my ID in case I never returned the vehicle...
That's good to know. A lot of the adivce givers online claim otherwise, but it could be just curbstoners and jaded salesmen bsing people. Your vehilce and price range could be a factor. With the car I'm in the market for, it's mostly cheap dealers and ghetto people. Sucks to be buying right now, but I'm not paying for another longer than short term in today's market. Generally sellers are entitled af these days

How long ago did you buy?
 

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The few that I asked just wanted a copy of my ID in case I never returned the vehicle... Though I avoided independent dealerships and stuck to the official manufacturer dealerships. A tip that I got from mechanics was that when used car shopping, you'll be more likely to come across quality used vehicles from manufacturer dealerships vs. independent. They only keep the best quality used cars on their lots and bulk auction the lower quality ones.
The main litmus test is always the test-drive, but yeah the manufacturer dealers exist to limit headaches. Many of the independent places are buy-here-pay-here places looking to exploit people with credit issues and don't care as much about car quality. But if you can pay full price cash at a independent dealer, you can get some good deals.

What car did you get?
 

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A foreign grocery-getter.
That's a good idea. When the chicks start starving, one can drive around offering them "food" in the way a van driver offers children "candy".
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Got a new (used) car the other day, wanted to report dealer prices have gone down 10+% over the last month or so. If you're going with a dealer, some of the smaller dealers (even as small as a one-man operation) have less overhead and smaller lots so they have to (and can) price their cars to sell. Just check out the rep beforehand.

The private market is going to be affected obviously but not right away because as with the housing market, peeps are sentimental, stubborn and many have made plans with the money they were expecting to get.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I’ve decided to heed Dave Ramsey’s advice and avoid having a car payment. Changed my mind on this stance.
Not only do you want to avoid payments, you want to avoid using a card. If you can pay in hard cash, most dealers will give you a discount. Mine gave me a $500 discount. Not very feasible with higher-end cars, though.
 

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Not only do you want to avoid payments, you want to avoid using a card. If you can pay in hard cash, most dealers will give you a discount. Mine gave me a $500 discount. Not very feasible with higher-end cars, though.
I could definitely find a use for that $500 haha.
 

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Hey friends and family, it’s been a while. I’ve just been working my ass off and saving money for the past few months. At both my regular tech job and my part time.

Big Update

I got approved for my car loan. I applied for a loan of $8,000 and they’ll have $7,600 directly to my bank account within a few days.

I did it by increasing my income from $68,500 up to $80,020 per year by getting a side hustle. Then, I went to a different lender and got the loan. That was all it took.

The payment will be $250 a month. That’s way less than I was paying for Hertz/Enterprise. Once I knock out some major upcoming expenses, my move being the main one, I’ll be able to clear that debt pretty quickly.

Now all we have to do is, shop a reliable car. My parents didn’t seem to think I could get a reliable used car under $10K though. I guess that’s inflation? I was shooting for a car in the $5K range. I guess we’ll see what happens. I’m sure I can do it with all the recommendations in this thread tho.

I absolutely don’t need some super nice, fancy car that I can’t afford. I just need a decent, reliable car ideally under 100K miles that can take a lot of driving on the weekends and get me from Point A to Point B.

Also, I will NOT be driving if I’m sleep deprived. Knock on wood, if I wreck that sunuvab*tch I’ll be in the exact same situation I was, but even worse.
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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This will help out for sure.

I didn’t want to ask for more than 10% of my income for a loan since I was having trouble getting approved in the past. But now I’m almost wishing I had asked for a little bit more lol
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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