Most PUA/Manosphere and alpha males in general will at best match 2 of those 4 things. There are some alphas who party on weekends and have a lot of social media followers. There are guys into PUA who aren't into any of those 4 things, or at most be into partying on weekends.
What should they do?
OP in strong denial of Clown World
the irony lol
Lost all credibility when you said this, fail.
Getting into an LTR with or marrying divorced women, single moms, women with promiscuous past is beta, as far as masculinity is concerned. You basically show through your actions that you're either too needy and/or incapable of securing a relationship with a top quality woman, despite your athletic, business or other type of success you might have.
I have literally been called beta by guys that do literally this. Icing on the cake, I do not date single moms either. Your red pill gurus are making love to single moms. Ray Ray and Pookie boasting about his bitcoin alpha lifestyle is making sweet love to single moms.
You are a short man. In the United States, 5'5" wasn't even desired in the 1980s-1990s when you were in your teens and 20s. Since 2000, women have gotten even harsher on height.Yes, every time I try to solve this equation, I end up with 0 / 0.
Totally agree when I heard Rollo say Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos aren't alpha I had to laugh, history a 100 years from now will remember them. Will History a 100 years from now remember "The Rational Male" I highly doubt it. It's been almost 20 years and people already forgot what "The Game" is by Neil Strauss. The High value man is cope for nerds or ugly guys thinking that they have shot. The reality is if you work at being just better than the local guy in your city you're good to go with most women in your city! For example a guy living in Des Moines Iowa who makes 75K a year is gonna be able to live a top tier lifestyle, in downtown des moines, a nice apartment, have money to go out etc while 75K a year in New York won't do Shyt and most likely you will have to share a shyttty apartment in Brooklyn with Someone else.
Tom Brady is alpha in his profession and regarding his status but the word "Alpha" has been bastardized to bits in the community that now it's all about being "high value" (or better yet High earning since money is all anyone talks about now from forums to youtube)the reality is 80% of men who watch/read and consume this content will never be that. It's a superficial and subjective take In my opinion. , based on vanity. Most guys here will be average or slightly above average at best. A guy making 7 figures, with D-list status, and model looks will not be on Sosuave or watch RP content unless they are bored. I remember a rich good looking buddy of mine would listen to RP content at the gym to laugh. The content is ridiculous especially on youtube and often has one-sided takes that sound delusional i.e. high-value men want women with low body counts or virgins meanwhile your favorite Redpill youtuber is going in raw on ONlyfans thots or has women working for him as cam girls I.e. Andrew Tate
Agree, getting in shape alone can help you out with women. No arguments here, been there done that
Agreed most men on here are meeting club thots or girls on Tinder, that will warp anyone's mentality. If you want to meet quality women you gonna have to be a quality man or be able to source quality. You're not gonna find quality women on Tinder or the clubs. Quality women are rare but they are out there
If you stay in good shape, a man's true peak I think is around 45. Social proof continues to grow as you age and mid-40s is the perfect blend of still looking relatively youthful while still getting a bit of age on you (most women like this) and having lots of connections socially that make you even more attractive.
Around 2013, Rollo Tomassi put out his infamous SMV chart that where he asserts that men's absolute peak was 36 (let's say roughly 35-40) and women's peak was 23 (let's say roughly 20-25).
I remember I was with this social group of people bar hopping and this girl was all over this one guy. He told her his age, he was 33 and she was 24 at the time and she got so turned off and stopped talking to him then and there. The next day, she told us that she would've slept with him, but him being over 30 was a huge turnoff.
I will agree with you on the bolded portion. My post you responded to was obviously contingent on the man staying in good shape. And I would say only a very small percentage of men stay in good shape past age 30 let alone into their 40s. Most guys even in their 30s I know are beer guzzlers that rarely if ever participate in physical exercise unless they must for their jobs. However, I would maintain that if that does happen (a man stays in good shape) a man's true SMV peak is in his mid-40s. Now, will an 18 year old go for a guy mid-40s? Not many. But I am looking at more in the women ages 23-29 which are still absolutely well within reach.
As the fisherman don't believe what the fish tells you about bait.
I am 30 and I bet you I could sleep with a 19-year-old right now. Does it mean she's going to be high quality? Idk, but I'll just say I slept with a 19-year-old on the internet. Any guy can bring some future single mom in writing to the local Applebees, impress her and bed her. Nobody is denying that it is impossible for an older man to get a younger woman, we are just saying that you will either take a dip in quality or have to pay for it with money.
It's good that we agree on the 50th percentile guy.
The interests of an average 18- or 21-year-old is going to more than likely be the interests of an average 18- or 21-year-old. More than likely, their top priorities is going to be some edgy hot jacked pretty boy Chad that can take her out to Applebees happy hour and bang her guts out in the parking lot, not an older male that cannot provide that "katy perry teenage dream" experience. There are women that do prefer the nicer things in life or maturity which seem go for older men.
