"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Why is OLD the last couple years borderline unusable??

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Aren't you already seeing a mental health professional? Ask them.
I haven't brought up that specific issue much but yeah. Even if I get more confidence in trying it still does nothing for the issue that I'm never in any situations where I'm naturally meeting women tho
 

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I haven't brought up that specific issue much but yeah. Even if I get more confidence in trying it still does nothing for the issue that I'm never in any situations where I'm naturally meeting women tho
You need to bring the issue up with your mental health professional. You will also need to go out into the real world more and naturally meet women. You're not alone in the problem I described in the last sentence. It takes a lot of real world time to meet women. I have had 2 hour daygame sessions on a popular walking path in my city where I have had 0-1 approaches because there were few women who seemed receptive to an approach.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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You need to bring the issue up with your mental health professional. You will also need to go out into the real world more and naturally meet women. You're not alone in the problem I described in the last sentence. It takes a lot of real world time to meet women. I have had 2 hour daygame sessions on a popular walking path in my city where I have had 0-1 approaches because there were few women who seemed receptive to an approach.
It's gonna take me a while to find things I can even do since daygame isn't much of an option for me
 

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I have a friend that gets good looking women all the time on Hinge. Are you guys exaggerating how bad the sites are nowadays?
For what it's worth Hinge is better than tinder or bumble, even if it's given me diminishing returns over the years
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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WOW JUST WOW. I decided to create a fake online dating profile just so I can see what kinda ladies were on the site and OMG. You guys were right. I still cant believe what I saw on there. Id say 90% of the women were either overweight or they had multiple kids. I thought you guys were exaggerating about this. Im in shock that it is this bad. 10 years ago it was great. It doesnt make sense why this is like this now. I dont understand what has caused this
Been trying to say that too. Before Covid OLD sucked but it was still useable. Even throwing up a couple crappy pics you could still get some results. The women were also much better looking back then and more of them. I mean still mostly crap but much easier to get replies and dates and numbers. 90 percent seems right. 10 percent of the women under 50 on OLD are cute. Other 90 full of tats, fat, or just ugly or all three. yet they're becoming more pay to play. I can't believe anyone would pay for the crap on there now. FB dating was okay back in 2020 and 2021 and it is free! Not it's POF and Tinder style garbage too. Even Match which had the hottest women before covid is dead now.
 

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They've gotten phucked out and are revenge-seeking and trolling.

WOW JUST WOW. I decided to create a fake online dating profile just so I can see what kinda ladies were on the site and OMG. You guys were right. I still cant believe what I saw on there. Id say 90% of the women were either overweight or they had multiple kids. I thought you guys were exaggerating about this. Im in shock that it is this bad. 10 years ago it was great. It doesnt make sense why this is like this now. I dont understand what has caused this
It can illuminating to create a fake profile of the opposite sex.
 

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Can I just say my experience once again does not relate to what most posters are describing.

I am meeting hot women constantly from OLD with little effort and it actually is getting easier over the years. Ya'll are doing something wrong.
 

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It would always be useful to know what dating market people are in when they make claims about quality. Country and city would be very useful.
 

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What sites are using and are you using the same lines and same game to get them? Can you give us some tips?
I've only used Hinge for a long time now

I don't use the same lines at all I send tailored responses based on their profile or what they opened me with. 99% of my interactions start from likes/comments on my profile. I am convinced guys just have dogshvt photos. Need to be good quality photos with variety. Selfies or NPC pics like hunting/fishing are a big no-no.

It would always be useful to know what dating market people are in when they make claims about quality. Country and city would be very useful.
I would but don't want to disclose that. Medium-small city in US that I happen to think has a surprisingly high amount of hot women per capita - I've heard a couple of guys who travel a lot say the same thing.
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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