"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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My college gf from 2002-2004 texted me and told me she would be at her parents old lake house alone in two weeks. We should catch up....

To start she was the first girl I dated after getting on this site. I was extremely aloof the entire time with her... ghosted her numerous times... and also saw other girls.

in reality I was an absolute sh!t boyfriend. She began texting me a few weeks ago and told me how great it was when we were together. I

anyway she’s married now... I have not even responded to her request because nothing good can come of that....

but just wanted to show how delusional females are and how distorted their views of reality can be. Treat them like dirt and they stick like mud
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Sounds like her marriage isn't going well and she is looking to spice things up for herself. Definitely an open invitation to come out and drink and probably smash. I can certainly understand believing that it isn't worth it from your perspective -- especially if you are getting pvssy from other avenues with less drama attached.

That is when you know you are in a great spot where you can turn away women and can actually feel good about the decision. You are coming from a place of abundance.
 

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If you don’t your college roommate will. It’s your duty brah. One way or another she’s getting some vitamin D, it might as well be yours.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Tread carefully. I’ve banged many a married woman but usually it’s with women I have no prior connection with. You are easily traceable in this situation for a beta who is good at research.

My whole views on this changed after I got stabbed by a beta who followed me and his ex home from the club (long story).
 

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My college gf from 2002-2004 texted me and told me she would be at her parents old lake house alone in two weeks. We should catch up....

To start she was the first girl I dated after getting on this site. I was extremely aloof the entire time with her... ghosted her numerous times... and also saw other girls.

in reality I was an absolute sh!t boyfriend. She began texting me a few weeks ago and told me how great it was when we were together. I

anyway she’s married now... I have not even responded to her request because nothing good can come of that....

but just wanted to show how delusional females are and how distorted their views of reality can be. Treat them like dirt and they stick like mud
Don't do it.

Men, stop rewarding toxic women for detestable behavior just to get subpar pvssy.

Say "not interested" (indifference kills women, not malice) then block her.
 

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Stopped dealing with garbage chicks in 2018. Had a married chick tell me she was separated and her and husband seeing other people. I believed it... so had fun... right before Christmas eating with my boss got a text omg.. he found out... this is horrible he left the house with a shotgun to kill himself! I literally put my fork down and almost puked. Thankfully he didn’t... I learned a valuable lesson and realize if I can’t accept the worst possible outcome I should steer clear. Married chicks affairs sometimes end in a murder suicide.... or the dude offing the entire family. It’s not worth it !
 

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Don't do it.

Men, stop rewarding toxic women for detestable behavior just to get subpar pvssy.

Say "not interested" (indifference kills women, not malice) then block her.
I prefer fvcking them better than anyone else ever has and then force them to have what they now know is bad sex the rest of their life.
:rofl:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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" My college gf from 2002-2004 texted me and told me she would be at her parents old lake house alone in two weeks. We should catch up.... "

That's all I had to read. She wants to fvck for sure. I really have no morals against fvcking married women. Some guys here might have different views. It's an easy fvck, but don't expect anything more than that. If she is willing to cheat on her husband, it means she will do it again. The window of opportunity is small though. If you don't fvck her, someone else will. So take the plunge now, or don't.
 

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OP can fvck her this time, but don't keep in touch afterwards and you'll be fine.
 

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My college gf from 2002-2004 texted me and told me she would be at her parents old lake house alone in two weeks. We should catch up....

To start she was the first girl I dated after getting on this site. I was extremely aloof the entire time with her... ghosted her numerous times... and also saw other girls.

in reality I was an absolute sh!t boyfriend. She began texting me a few weeks ago and told me how great it was when we were together. I

anyway she’s married now... I have not even responded to her request because nothing good can come of that....

but just wanted to show how delusional females are and how distorted their views of reality can be. Treat them like dirt and they stick like mud
Hopefully her husband doesn't know how to use spy software and a shotgun. Otherwise your story will be in the next season of Fargo.
 

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Don't do it.

Men, stop rewarding toxic women for detestable behavior just to get subpar pvssy.

Say "not interested" (indifference kills women, not malice) then block her.
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I’ve not done anything with a married woman and don’t want to. Although a Turkish milf going through a divorce wanted me to bang her. She said her husband is the only man she’d fvcked and that she could wear her wedding dress while i fvck her next to her wedding photos in her bedroom.

I can’t lie it sounded extremely hot and connected to my deviant side but I’m glad I didn’t do it. Marriage needs to be respected.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I avoid married women, WAY too much drama for the small release.
 

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My college gf from 2002-2004 texted me and told me she would be at her parents old lake house alone in two weeks. We should catch up....

To start she was the first girl I dated after getting on this site. I was extremely aloof the entire time with her... ghosted her numerous times... and also saw other girls.

in reality I was an absolute sh!t boyfriend. She began texting me a few weeks ago and told me how great it was when we were together. I

anyway she’s married now... I have not even responded to her request because nothing good can come of that....

but just wanted to show how delusional females are and how distorted their views of reality can be. Treat them like dirt and they stick like mud
This also goes to show that you were right to treat her like sh!t. Because she is sh!t.
 

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If you don’t your college roommate will. It’s your duty brah. One way or another she’s getting some vitamin D, it might as well be yours.
So what? Let someone else deal with the drama. It's not like it's your sacred obligation as a man to fill every hole that begs to be filled. That kind of thinking is the primary reason behind pvssy inflation.
 

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Sounds like her marriage isn't going well and she is looking to spice things up for herself. Definitely an open invitation to come out and drink and probably smash. I can certainly understand believing that it isn't worth it from your perspective -- especially if you are getting pvssy from other avenues with less drama attached.

That is when you know you are in a great spot where you can turn away women and can actually feel good about the decision. You are coming from a place of abundance.
This is perfect analysis. Marriages often go to shiit in time. It's better to smash vag with less drama attached.

She wants to fvck the sh!t out of you and then go back to her husband as if nothing happened.
That could be a fun experience.

My college gf from 2002-2004 texted me and told me she would be at her parents old lake house alone in two weeks. We should catch up....
Did you slam that vag for nostalgia's sake this past weekend? I'm guessing this past weekend was the lake house weekend.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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