Your thoughts on the latest abortion ruling

[BillyPilgrim]

I never understood how it is in men’s interest to have the government enforce a prohibition on abortion.

Can someone break it down for me?

For the sake of argument, it promotes a level playing field. Men never had any say in abortion to begin with, and hypothetically women would be in the same boat.

 

[BadBoy89]

SCOTUS did not outlaw abortion, it gave the power to the States, where it always should have been to begin with. Each state, has legislative bodies that are representative of their constituents- they were duly elected to office to make laws for the state they are in. They hold the power to pass laws that are representing the will of the people. If you live in a state that doesn’t represent your views change your elected officials. Or move.

This isn’t about abortion rights it’s about states’ rights, just like gun control.

True

But then why are people, mostly women, freaking out? They cannot afford to move? Or are there too many Chads in the States that allow abortions and too many Betas in the States that don’t?

The federal government has the power to coin money, to regulate commerce, to declare war, to raise and maintain armed forces, and to establish a Post Office. That’s it.

Again true.

So 6/9 Supreme Court Justices, the most powerful and allegedly smartest people of the most powerful country world, have just said “The federal government has the power to declare war and kill fetuses of other countries, but to kill fetuses of our own country, not our problem.”

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Their gnashing teeth because they want attention. If you watch the protests it’s always an utterly unboinkable woman screeching at the microphone, or a 300lb purple haired bulldyke. Its weird.

As far as what SCOTUS can do? Again not a federal issue it’s a states rights issue.

True

But then why are people, mostly women, freaking out? They cannot afford to move? Or are there too many Chads in the States that allow abortions and too many Betas in the States that don’t?

Again true.

So 6/9 Supreme Court Justices, the most powerful and allegedly smartest people of the most powerful country world, have just said “The federal government has the power to declare war and kill fetuses of other countries, but to kill fetuses of our own country, not our problem.”

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Wtf are you talking about? Lol

I’m replying directly to your post, left as an exercise for the reader.

 

[EyeBRollin]

For the sake of argument, it promotes a level playing field. Men never had any say in abortion to begin with, and hypothetically women would be in the same boat.

How does the government prohibiting abortion create a level playing field?

 

[Billtx49]

How does the government prohibiting abortion create a level playing field?

Let’s talk facts, they never prohibited it. They said it was Not constitutional for the federal government to rule over. It now returns to being a states law issue after 50 years of being unconstitutional .…

 

[EyeBRollin]

Let’s talk facts, they never prohibited it. They said it was Not constitutional for the federal government to rule over. It now returns to being a states law issue after 50 years.…

Some states have passed abortion bans. Others are drafting them right bow. How do government abortion bans level the playing field?

 

[Billtx49]

Some states have passed abortion bans. Others are drafting them right bow. How do government abortion bans level the playing field?

Doesn’t matter unless you live in that state. Results on new laws obviously not in yet.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Doesn’t matter unless you live in that state.

So, not going to answer? How do abortion restrictions level the playing field?

 

[Epicwinguy]

So, not going to answer? How do abortion restrictions level the playing field?

Because it chooses everyone to choose between celibacy or becoming a parent/shell of their former selves.

 

[Billtx49]

How do abortion restrictions level the playing field?

We are not dealing with 1+1=2 here. The states laws yet to be passed or updated is an unknown and it Will eventually vary by state of residence.
Until that time, this is only a theoretical question with no absolute answer.

 

[Billtx49]

Who goes to jail when the government broke the law for 50 years?

Perfectly good question. Think I heard almost 63.5 million dead fetuses since 1973. It’s massive, but given the scope of it, probably nobody.
A more important thought is to think of the amount of women that value their own lives convenience over a child’s life …

 

[Bible_Belt]

A more important thought is to think of the amount of women that value their own lives convenience over a child’s life …

The majority of women who have abortions already have children. Concern about not being able to provide for their existing children is one of the three main reasons women in a recent piece of survey research stated as their reasoning. The other two reasons were that the father would not, or could not, support the child. Convenience is a myth.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Actually, there were trigger laws in 13 states:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/24/abortion-state-laws-criminalization-roe/

We are not dealing with 1+1=2 here. The states laws yet to be passed or updated is an unknown and it Will eventually vary by state of residence.
Until that time, this is only a theoretical question with no absolute answer.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I'll care about women's life impacting child decisions when men have a right to opt out of rights and responsibilities. I wonder for those who disagree if they also feel adoption should be outlawed.

I don’t understand. Men we can try not nutting inside a bvtch we have no intention of have kids with. Or wearing a condom…

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

As a father myself and someone who has worked peds I am very protective of children.

The littles didn’t ask to be brought into the world. They deserve society’s protection and adoration. You cannot throw them away, because it perpetuates the cycle of abuse, crime, neglect and creates more humans because they too will have sh11ty values.

Even my kids didn’t ask to be born into the dysfunctional marriage they were - but we both realized it and protected them from our crap.

Anyway that’s one man’s opinion. Yes suffer the little children.

I'll care about women's life impacting child decisions when men have a right to opt out of rights and responsibilities. I wonder for those who disagree if they also feel adoption should be outlawed.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

With all talk about manhood and the self proclaimed baller alphas here I’m wondering how many of them do volunteer community service work,

How about joining a big brother program and teach some young men to be men? Be part of the solution, not a bystander. I promise it’s one of the most rewarding things you’ll ever do.

That assumes normal mentation, if you’re a sociopathic self-centered arse fehgettabowtit.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

So let me get this straight, a woman giving up her kid after it was born for adoption is ok. She isn't a huge piece of shjt. But a man shouldn't be able to forfeit his rights and responsibilities while it's still a fetus? This makes him a lowlife scumbag?

I’m not talking about that - I’m saying no matter what the woman does the child isn’t to blame and should not suffer that is all.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Federal Reserve Act of 1913. It’s not federal and it’s not a reserve, but it’s law. Unfortunately as long as they can just add zeroes it’s going to continue, too much money in politics. Our countries’ ability to do what we do is because petroleum is priced in US dollars, countries have to buy USD to buy petroleum it’s the whole reason we went after Sadam in 1991 he wanted to create a new exchange based in gold.

Petro Dollarhammer

 

[user252009]

I don't give a **** - the US isn't the rest of the world