I really dont think looks matter

[IamtheAlphamale]

Th

bro you’re 39 and live with your parents bro

You have bigger problems than women

thats funny

 

[Ladykiler]

Th

thats funny

how is that funny?

you’re about to be 40 bro

ain’t **** funny about that

 

[tanchinos]

How many times does this have to be said?

Looks matter but it's not like you can't get pvssy if you're not "attractive"

I have been labelled a 'weirdo' before in my 20s. After all image, social proof and status. Because of that nearly turned into a hermit who just worked expecting nothing more and felt helpless. Thanks to my parents there's a line in the sand. I chalked the 'weirdo' tag just down to some bvtch appropriating me. She did not have a full picture of who or what I was. I have known social outcasts who I hope are in a better place, doing well
Life is rough. It's amazing I've gone this long without pushing someone's nose bone into their blood-brain barrier.

 

[tanchinos]

bro you’re 39 and live with your parents bro

Ditto. I'm 34. I do not like to think they bring me down by saying that I am brilliant etc. but I suspect it hasn't manifested with the ladies, so I used to not believe them most of the time.
I've already been through the counselling gauntlet. Despite my earlier post, it has mostly been a good day for me.

 

[Bigpapa]

Ditto. I'm 34. I do not like to think they bring me down by saying that I am brilliant etc. but I suspect it hasn't manifested with the ladies, so I used to not believe them most of the time.
I've already been through the counselling gauntlet. Despite my earlier post, it has mostly been a good day for me.

going to counseling is for simps

man up and play the field

 

[tanchinos]

going to counseling is for simps

man up and play the field

Mind you this counseling wasn't recent, I packed it in, although in a recent catalogue of self-harm I have been suggested therapy again I put it aside. its just this repeated frustration of working, expecting less because of people like the slag in my previous post, parents wonder what's up, repeat...I was dignosed AS but FT I actually think I am just bad tempered

 

[Velasco]

Alphas don't go to therapy

I think that is psychopaths. I forget the paper I read it from (if I find it I will link it here) but they will do anything it takes (read: lie) to avoid getting treatment for their condition.

Edit: I found an article that discusses the paper but couldn't find the paper itself (was quite true what they found. As most articles I've read on psychopathy is cringe)

How psychopaths and sociopaths deceive and trick their therapists

These underlying reasons help explain why there isn't really a treatment for being a psychopath.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[tanchinos]

Alphas don't go to therapy.

Taking myself out the situation for a moment, I have met people on the spectrum for many years, some volatile, who still seem to co-exist following societal rules, alongside this paradigm of redpill LMS, chads, incels and superficial gorgeous women. I am so confused

 

[Bigpapa]

I think that is psychopaths. I forget the paper I read it from (if I find it I will link it here) but they will do anything it takes (read: lie) to avoid getting treatment for their condition.

Edit: I found an article that discusses the paper but couldn't find the paper itself (was quite true what they found. As most articles I've read on psychopathy is cringe)

How psychopaths and sociopaths deceive and trick their therapists

These underlying reasons help explain why there isn't really a treatment for being a psychopath.

www.businessinsider.com

in my country we have an old saying : “ only crazy people will not wonder from time to time if they are crazy or not “

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

how is that funny?

you’re about to be 40 bro

ain’t **** funny about that

If you meditate a lot you start to view things in an unattached way. It just doesn't matter unless I care. I find my 'flaws' amusing

 

[Ladykiler]

If you meditate a lot you start to view things in an unattached way. It just doesn't matter unless I care. I find my 'flaws' amusing

okay I get it but you have to leave the nest man

I’m sure it’ll be better for you. If you love your situation great

 

[Hamurabimbi]

The diversity of opinion on the importance of looks here, probably correlates to life experiences/observations. An interesting thought exercise: when women compliment you, what do they compliment you on?

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Guys, I already settled this in the first reply of the thread. Discussion is over. How are there 5 pages of this?

 

[corrector]

I don't think looks matter.

In high-school there was this guy Vito. He was super short and just the ugliest guy ever with messed up ears and stuff. Anyways he literally got bjs from over 100 girls at my school.

I'm 5'7 now at 39. Literally about 2 years ago I was about 295 pounds and I work at a factory and lots of hot girls were into me even super hot 18 year olds. I also have crazy bad posture.

I started approaching recently. The biggest difference for me was when I started listing all the positive qualities I have in my head and reframing the negative things to highlight the silver lining. This made me think I was way better looking. I have lost a bunch of weight. But once I did this one trick I started getting tons of hot girls staring at me. I wear a mask btw most of the time when I'm walking around.

I'm not saying I'm amazing with women. Im actually just starting to date again and rusty as hell. Im just saying I'm not in shape 235 and have really bad posture and short and wear a mask. And I just wear jeans and a hoodie.

But my body language is amazing and I have confidence and am crazy calm from thousands of hours of meditation and I think that's the only reason girls like me.

I'm not bragging. Tons of you are way better with women than me. I also live with my parents and the girls at work know all this.

Why do you guys think looks matter so much? In my mind I'm a 10 and I think that's what they like I think.

Explain

How did you meet these hot girls?

 

[devilkingx2]

If you’re referring to the fat story I posted.

Its one of the reasons why I don’t post receipts. Guys like you who don’t do well with women can’t comprehend what successfully dealing with women looks like. They/you can’t comprehend how “telling a girl to lose weight” is actually perfectly okay and she actually admires you when you tell her she’s not good enough.

As long as you’re telling her to change in ways she can effect, she’s actually interpreting it as “this guy actually cares about my health.” I don’t care about her health, I just can’t get hard for fat. But she’ll interpret it as me administering tough love.

I once joked lightly to a girl I was talking to about her being fat. She sent me like 10 selfies of herself in bikinis and stuff like that to prove to me that she was in great shape lol. So I can definitely understand the plausibility of your anecdote.

 

[devilkingx2]

I think a guy would be better off with good looks and average game than average looks and good game. But both of those guys would be killing it. You're only really screwed if you're far below average in something important like looks or game.

The only thing that matters is attraction, there's lots of ways to create attraction but looks money status is the easiest (but acquiring game is way easier than LMS unless you were born with it)

Women seem to have ridiculous standards for male looks as well, with those OLD surveys from POF or OKC showing women see 80% of men as average or below, so maybe trying to be good looking is a fool's errand.

 

[Bigpapa]

Women seem to have ridiculous standards for male looks as well, with those OLD surveys from POF or OKC showing women see 80% of men as average or below, so maybe trying to be good looking is a fool's errand.

it can also be a bias on not that good looking guys having a higher presence in the OLD environment

it can also be a bias that a woman is actually cute from starting 7 and upwards , and women more or less so the same thing like guys . Either cute either nothing

no guy wants to sleep with a bellow 5 woman , and most likely it can be the same for a woman when it comes to guys

 

[Machine10033]

Looks matter.... in my experience it gets you much more slack when dealing with a female and also gets you in the door. If your ugly.... you have a massive uphill battle to climb. Unless your a drug dealer or extremely wealthy.

 

[SW15]

Looks matter.... in my experience it gets you much more slack when dealing with a female and also gets you in the door. If your ugly.... you have a massive uphill battle to climb. Unless your a drug dealer or extremely wealthy.

Being a drug dealer is a good way to get vagina. A lot of things about that occupation produce vaginal tingles. It's inherently dangerous and doesn't follow the rules. Those are things that get women excited. By being a drug dealer, you're announcing to women that you are not some docile beta male. Additionally, if you are a higher end dealer, you might be driving around the city in an awesome car like a BMW or a Porsche. Brands associated with conspicuous consumption are always good for attracting the poontang.

Wealth without drug dealing is good too. You must flaunt it. A BMW, Mercedes-Benz, or Porsche are good places to start with flaunting. A yacht can help too but a yacht or a BMW can be owned by betas. If you're rich enough, you can overcome some beta tendencies. It depends on how rich you are and how beta you are.

Good looks always help. I recommend being 6'0'+ and being muscular/fit to some degree.

I think a guy would be better off with good looks and average game than average looks and good game. But both of those guys would be killing it. You're only really screwed if you're far below average in something important like looks or game.

The only thing that matters is attraction, there's lots of ways to create attraction but looks money status is the easiest (but acquiring game is way easier than LMS unless you were born with it)

Women seem to have ridiculous standards for male looks as well, with those OLD surveys from POF or OKC showing women see 80% of men as average or below, so maybe trying to be good looking is a fool's errand.

An average looking man with average game will be an Average Frustrated Chump (AFC) struggling to get laid or at the mercy of the whims of a girlfriend for his vagina.

Looks Money Status will get a man laid. Look good and have money and you're ahead.

Women's standards have gotten higher in the last 20 years. A 25-30 year old woman today has higher standards for everything than a 25-30 year old did in 2002.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Being a drug dealer also risks serious prison time and you are selling your soul to the devil.

Yeah man that's not worth it for poon alone. Going to prison is literally one the worst thing that can happen to a man. Drug dealers usually get very long sentences.