Mask/Vaccine mandates being lifted. Hmmm...

[EyeBRollin]

So again...who am I to you if I did not get it?

You are a person with a misinformed opinion presenting your own anecdotal evidence as an argument.

 

[HaleyBaron]

You are a person with a misinformed opinion presenting your own anecdotal evidence as an argument.

Yes. That's the point. I exist as a person who did not get sick despite having no vaccine, no mask, and no isolation. I defeat all the covid arguments. Thus, if you are a logical person, your next question should be how did I do it so you can educate others in how to become like me.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I’ve seen friendships, relationships and family units break up over POV on mandates, vaccinations, etc.

I do blame the governments and media for inciting people, but I still blame the puppets that freely dismiss their friends and families to ride along with the narrative. There's a major difference between me going "I'm fine with what you do. Just don't shame or force stuff on me." And another when someone decides to force their views and lifestyles on you. I can say with confidence that everyone in the covid camp are the enforcers.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Yes. That's the point. I exist as a person who did not get sick despite having no vaccine, no mask, and no isolation. I defeat all the covid arguments.

No. Anecdotal evidence is not credible. You are just a bad troll.

 

[HaleyBaron]

No. Anecdotal evidence is not credible. You are just a bad troll.

I love how you keep avoiding the logical hole in this entire covid religion you keep spouting. You know I'm right but you avoid calling it what it is cause it stomps a major hole in everything you thought you knew. I mostly went through this posting to reveal to others the holes in your vaccine business.

 

[Zimbabwe]

I do not understand why people are still making this political.

To distract us from the actual issues like Inflation,stagnant wages,billionaires making record profit and etc.

Seriously the minimum wage increased by 2% while inflation went up 7%. Basically the money you earn is losing value every year. Cost of homes have also skyrocketed, i can go into more detail but i don't want to derail this thread.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I love how you keep avoiding the logical hole in this entire covid religion you keep spouting. You know I'm right but you avoid calling it what it is cause it stomps a major hole in everything you thought you knew. I mostly went through this posting to reveal to others the holes in your vaccine business.

Logic. That is funny. Your lone argument is purely anecdotal. It’s actually pathetic.

Gentlemen, stop with the arguments. We as a populous have to start pointing the finger at governments and politicized health organizations. They have done nothing but divided us over COVID.
I’ve seen friendships, relationships and family units break up over POV on mandates, vaccinations, etc.

I respectfully disagree. Blaming government for people’s bad opinions is a cop out. The government’s role is public health. It is perfectly fair to criticize the effectiveness and messaging of public policies such as a mask mandate. However, is another thing to call it “divisive” just because some people refuse as a political protest against who is running the government.

 

[HaleyBaron]

The government’s role is public health

LOL

 

[EyeBRollin]

To distract us from the actual issues like Inflation,stagnant wages,billionaires making record profit and etc.

In the USA, over 800,000 people have died from COVID-19. Enough to lower the life expectancy by 1.5 years. How is that not a relevant issue?

 

[HaleyBaron]

In the USA, over 800,000 people have died from COVID-19. Enough to lower the life expectancy by 1.5 years. How is that not a relevant issue?

 

[Stuffnu]

Logic. That is funny. Your lone argument is purely anecdotal. It’s actually pathetic.



I respectfully disagree. Blaming government for people’s bad opinions is a cop out. The government’s role is public health. It is perfectly fair to criticize the effectiveness and messaging of public policies such as a mask mandate. However, is another thing to call it “divisive” just because some people refuse as a political protest against who is running the government.

I hear what you’re saying.

Now I’m in Ontario Canada, so our political landscape may differ. Our provincial government promoted an reopened society based on vaccinations. We’re approaching 90% fully faxed and 35% booster. Strong response and numbers...
We’re in F’n lockdown again. Hospital and ICU numbers have increased but they have now been rephrased “with COVID“ not “because of COVID”.
Too many cases were misclassified previously.
Now the term “Breakthrough” is being loosely tossed around for those in hospitals that have been vaxxed. No indications if they just tested positive, symptomatic or for completely another reason.

I too think people should get vaccinated without question! Not wearing a mask for a few minutes in a store reeks of a first world problem and selfishness.

That being said, I’m losing an argumentative stance, especially with my friends who are sitting on the fence when they ask what’s the point. So yes, I will blame government and bureaucracies for feeding the fire. It’s tough to force something when you’re backing it up with blurry statistical information. If they just gave us unadulterated and hard facts much earlier, I think we‘ll be in a more receptive landscape.

 

[Black Widow Void]

I haven't had a single shot nor isolated. Haven't gotten sick at all. So....what does that say?

It says exactly what it says. Can't scale it up. Come on...you can do better than that. Always amazed when I see this kind of "logic" on Sosuave. Not saying you're wrong about masks or shots, just saying you need a larger sample size than one person.

Oh, it's more than just "one person." I'm proof of this.
According to (so-called) 'science'... with my age and lifestyle, I should have been dead or hospitalized two or three times already, but ... here I am; no vaccine, masked less than three hours over the past two years. gone about my business the typical way... and no sickness since 2017.

My science isn't based on "science changes." Instead my science is based on concrete facts. For instance; an adequate immune system is capable of doing its job. Many of us are scientific proof that we've done fine without masks or vaccines.

 

[Zimbabwe]

In the USA, over 800,000 people have died from COVID-19. Enough to lower the life expectancy by 1.5 years. How is that not a relevant issue?

I mean the whole issue of vax vs anti vaxxers, the media intentionally plays up the narrative.

Plus if the Government wanted to do something they would have closed the borders to china who created and unleashed the virus in the first place.

 

[Black Widow Void]

We’re approaching 90% fully faxed and 35% booster. Strong response and numbers...
We’re in F’n lockdown again. Hospital and ICU numbers have increased but they have now been rephrased “with COVID“ not “because of COVID”.

According to you, Canada is "approaching 90% fully faxed and 35% booster." And also according to you "Hospital and ICU numbers have increased."

This sure sounds like "hospital and ICU numbers have increased" as a result of Canadians "approaching 90% fully faxed and 35% booster."

Meanwhile, you refer to people like me as being "selfish." Is this mentality of yours... a side effect of the booster or the vaccine?

 

[EyeBRollin]

That being said, I’m losing an argumentative stance, especially with my friends who are sitting on the fence when they ask what’s the point. So yes, I will blame government and bureaucracies for feeding the fire. It’s tough to force something when you’re backing it up with blurry statistical information. If they just gave us unadulterated and hard facts much earlier, I think we‘ll be in a more receptive landscape.

COVID-19 was a new strain of coronavirus; thus the science on it has been evolving as we learn more information. It is always going to be a losing argument to those that require concrete answers to be “convinced.” Unfortunately, the people who do not trust the science community are disproportionately dying because of it.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I mean the whole issue of vax vs anti vaxxers, the media intentionally plays up the narrative.

Plus if the Government wanted to do something they would have closed the borders to china who created and unleashed the virus in the first place.

There really is no debate on vax vs. anti-vax. Unvaccinated are more likely to get COVID-19, more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19, and more likely to die from COVID-19. The two “sides” do not have equal statistical merit.

Closing the borders doesn’t work. The virus was in the West weeks before the first confirmed cases.

 

[Zimbabwe]

There really is no debate on vax vs. anti-vax. Unvaccinated are more likely to get COVID-19, more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19, and more likely to die from COVID-19. The two “sides” do not have equal statistical merit.

Closing the borders doesn’t work. The virus was in the West weeks before the first confirmed cases.

Because china didn't report on it early on thanks to censorship, people wanted to close the border but sjws cried about racism.

I strongly believe this anti vax nonsense was started by China to divide up the west, force us to fight against each other. I wouldn't be surprised if big buisness and politicians accept chinese bribes.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Why should I get vaccinated for the good of public health, when the public doesn't care about their health to begin with? Obestity, drugs, poor diet, cigarettes...

Not only this, but why does the government encourage corn syrup, sugar, and processed meat, the three deadliest causes of heart disease, diabetes, and cancer. Like for a government that cares for our health, they sure love putting a lot of those three into us.

It's as if they have subsides and lobbyists who pay politicians to keep that stuff fed to the citizens...

 

[Billtx49]

Why should I get vaccinated for the good of public health, when the public doesn't care about their health to begin with? Obestity, drugs, poor diet, cigarettes...

Each person makes the to vax or not vax decision based on their own personal health judgement and preferences.…

 

[Stuffnu]

According to you, Canada is "approaching 90% fully faxed and 35% booster." And also according to you "Hospital and ICU numbers have increased."

This sure sounds like "hospital and ICU numbers have increased" as a result of Canadians "approaching 90% fully faxed and 35% booster."

Meanwhile, you refer to people like me as being "selfish." Is this mentality of yours... a side effect of the booster or the vaccine?

All good bro. I don’t like wearing them but it’s a very small inconvenience and I‘m struggling with why some people are becoming militant over it.
Good thing we don’t live in a malnourished and war torn country eh?
Hospital and ICU is much higher as a percentile of population with the unvaxxed. But my question remains, how many are in there due to Covid or tested positive for it.

COVID-19 was a new strain of coronavirus; thus the science on it has been evolving as we learn more information. It is always going to be a losing argument to those that require concrete answers to be “convinced.” Unfortunately, the people who do not trust the science community are disproportionately dying because of it.

Oh I understand the learning curve, but you’re not going to change minds with the current agenda and forceful methods.

Not only this, but why does the government encourage corn syrup, sugar, and processed meat, the three deadliest causes of heart disease, diabetes, and cancer. Like for a government that cares for our health, they sure love putting a lot of those three into us. It's as if they have subsides and lobbyists who pay politicians to keep that stuff fed to the citizens...

And my personal fave. Locking us down and closing business while they gleefully collect there taxpayer paychecks. They coined the phrase up here “We’re in it together”. One thing both sides collectively agreed with. Bull shiate!