"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Getting jacked/ripped would eliminate 85% of the problems on this forum..

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Sigh this is like picking at a scab.

this time I’m out. Peace.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Working out wont get you laid. Plain and simple. These guys promoting the gyms are brainwashed by the media telling them in ads and magazines that they gotta have a six pack to get a woman. Just be yourself. Guys that work out have too much time on there hands. Gyms are for men that dont have physical jobs. When you have a physical job you dont need a gym. Guys that workout are doing it cause they are insecure with how they look normally. It makes zero sense to waste away your joints and use your energy when you dont need to. Im not against people doing what they want in life though. Go ahead and waste your money on gyms and putting your energy into weights when you could be enjoying real things in life besides obsessing over your body. Knock yourself out.
If you are a business owner or work a white collar profession you will get zero activity on the job. Hence a appropriate fitness regimen is added to your life to give it balance. Health is not just for looks its about quality of life. And in case you didn't know good physical health keeps stress under control and makes you sharper mentally..
 
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You can be self employed, make 150,000 a year
And I can still probably bang your chick on her girls trip to Vegas because she’s secretly repulsed by your girly soft body.
Haha. You're the guy who says your strategy is to go for ugly girls right?

You gym guys love to mental masturbate about how great you think you are
 

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I'm currently in Dubrovnik, Croatia. Lots of tourists and couples, many of them young. Today, I will pay close attention to the guy any time I see one with an attractive girl.

My guess is that they will tend to be taller than average, but almost none of them will be jacked.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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you're making it sound like it takes up most of your life, yes it can if you want (like anything), but you only need a few hours a weeks, not a day. even diet side isn;t a big time sink once you get in a routine.

as for compensating, again you can say anyone who puts more time into anything could be compensating for some insecurity. you get all sorts in all pursuits really.
 
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you're making it sound like it takes up most of your life, yes it can if you want (like anything), but you only need a few hours a weeks, not a day. even diet side isn;t a big time sink once you get in a routine.

as for compensating, again you can say anyone who puts more time into anything could be compensating for some insecurity. you get all sorts in all pursuits really.
if You want to be jacked and actually look good it does consumer most of your life because you have to base your day to day activities off nutrition and working out. If you want to be a fat fvck with muscles then it doesn’t really take a lot of time.
 

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if You want to be jacked and actually look good it does consumer most of your life because you have to base your day to day activities off nutrition and working out. If you want to be a fat fvck with muscles then it doesn’t really take a lot of time.
its part of my routine, I only sleep 6 hours - wake up naturally really early and get it done before rest of day starts in my garage gym - squat rack, dumbells, pullup bar, dips stn etc. round 40 mins per session 5 times a week on average. only eat 3/4 times a day, minimal food prep, no more than what people eating typical diets spend. did go through a phase 10 years ago of doing the 6 meals a day, carrying food around with me, eating bang on set times, buts it completely unnecessary found it did dictate too much of my life. now in best shape of my life at 41.

results are worth it for numerous reasons. a lot of people I know who don;t train watch tv for hours each night as apparently too tired and need that time to relax/unwind and sit on a couch for hours instead. i'm sure some are genuinely busy with productive stuff like running a business for 15 hours+, but I find it hard to believe that most who don;t work out are spending all day working to build an empire or doing something productive.

I work full time in a job, work on sideline business for hours most days, have my daughter half the week and still have time to socialize an evening or 2 a week or drive my car around for fun and play PS5 some days. Don't have time for a relationship, but thats not on my priority list for now.
 
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Haha. You're the guy who says your strategy is to go for ugly girls right?

You gym guys love to mental masturbate about how great you think you are
Let's hope your girl never gets into a situation where she needs a man around to be able to physically protect her.

This is when dudes like me and Cola would need to step in, as you definitely would not be able to hold your own against jacked men.
 

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Let's hope your girl never gets into a situation where she needs a man around to be able to physically protect her.

This is when dudes like me and Cola would need to step in, as you definitely would not be able to hold your own against jacked men.
I think I could take both of you at the same time.

And while we're at it... Enlighten us with all the stories of the times you protected anyone. Lol.
 
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I have a feeling this thread may get locked soon. So I'll post the results of my observation of couples in Dubrovnik.

Out of probably 25 that I saw... None were with jacked guys. None were with fat guys. All the couples had a guy who was thin (sometimes even rail thin), and who was usually slightly taller than average. I'm talking like 5'10" (not 6'2").

The only jacked guys I saw were hanging out with each other with no girls around. Also, there were jacked guys working on a construction crew. No females around.

The REALITY of the world differs greatly from the mental masturbation of the gym rat club.
 

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I have a feeling this thread may get locked soon. So I'll post the results of my observation of couples in Dubrovnik.

Out of probably 25 that I saw... None were with jacked guys. None were with fat guys. All the couples had a guy who was thin (sometimes even rail thin), and who was usually slightly taller than average. I'm talking like 5'10" (not 6'2").

The only jacked guys I saw were hanging out with each other with no girls around. Also, there were jacked guys working on a construction crew. No females around.

The REALITY of the world differs greatly from the mental masturbation of the gym rat club.
yes, but also need to factor in that theres less people in excellent looking physical shape too, for one reason or another. its not like someone can decide they're going to be ripped for their visit to the beach in 2 weeks so do a few sessions and arrive at that. can't go from below to averageto excellent physique overnight.
 

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yes, but also need to factor in that theres less people in excellent looking physical shape too, for one reason or another. its not like someone can decide they're going to be ripped for their visit to the beach in 2 weeks so do a few sessions and arrive at that. can't go from below to averageto excellent physique overnight.
I don't see how that changes anything.

And the few guys I did see that were jacked were not with girls.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I don't see how that changes anything.

And the few guys I did see that were jacked were not with girls.
yeah, but its a small sample size and no doubt people in average shape weren;t all with women. if you were to follows pans mantra, the alphas were just hanging out with their male friends and banging all the guys girlfriends later. no time to waste with women outside of sex :D
 

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yeah, but its a small sample size and no doubt people in average shape weren;t all with women. if you were to follows pans mantra, the alphas were just hanging out with their male friends and banging all the guys girlfriends later. no time to waste with women outside of sex :D
Yea except they weren't.

Does anyone actually believe that nonsense?
 
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its part of my routine, I only sleep 6 hours - wake up naturally really early and get it done before rest of day starts in my garage gym - squat rack, dumbells, pullup bar, dips stn etc. round 40 mins per session 5 times a week on average. only eat 3/4 times a day, minimal food prep, no more than what people eating typical diets spend. did go through a phase 10 years ago of doing the 6 meals a day, carrying food around with me, eating bang on set times, buts it completely unnecessary found it did dictate too much of my life. now in best shape of my life at 41.

results are worth it for numerous reasons. a lot of people I know who don;t train watch tv for hours each night as apparently too tired and need that time to relax/unwind and sit on a couch for hours instead. i'm sure some are genuinely busy with productive stuff like running a business for 15 hours+, but I find it hard to believe that most who don;t work out are spending all day working to build an empire or doing something productive.

I work full time in a job, work on sideline business for hours most days, have my daughter half the week and still have time to socialize an evening or 2 a week or drive my car around for fun and play PS5 some days. Don't have time for a relationship, but thats not on my priority list for now.
the vast majority of people cannot resist picking up some cheap ass crappy cookies in the snack aisle, and you call your lifestyle easy to just pick up? If getting jacked with abs was so easy then EVERYONE would have them!
 

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the vast majority of people cannot resist picking up some cheap ass crappy cookies in the snack aisle, and you call your lifestyle easy to just pick up? If getting jacked with abs was so easy then EVERYONE would have them!
I never said it's easy, I'm saying it doesn;t have to take up your entire life like some are saying or insinuating. If you looking for something easy or path of least resistant most things worth achieving will be out of reach.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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