"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Tips on Getting Shredded in Real Life?

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Hey guys! I’ve been following the Kinobody programs, and I’ve been working hard on getting shredded. Been able to lose 5% bodyfat so far.
I know that being fat or out of shape is nowhere near optimal for attracting women. So I want to get down to single digit bodyfat.

However, I can’t lose another pound. The reason for this is all the social situations: the binge drinking and eating out at restaurants that my friends always want to do. I actually have great adherence to my normal diet because I do intermittent fasting and flexible eating. My diet is flexible as hell.

However, life happens: my friends want to binge drink nearly every day and eat out a lot too. I tracked my calories one of these days out of curiosity. It came out to 6000! That is ludicrous. I’ll never lose weight like that.

How do you all deal with this, SS family? I’m starting to think maybe I just need to train myself into a super athlete so I can burn off all these calories.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You can never out train a bad diet.

Think I can comment on this one, lost over 25+% body fat ~ 100 lbs.

Currently at 17%, still going strong.

This is what I did:

- Download myfitnesspal
- Calculate your TDEE (use sedentary setting)
- Subtract 100 calories
- Track everything you eat(that includes ketchup)
- See how the weighing scale moves


Tips:
- have a glass of water before every meal
- have a full plate of vegetables before every meal (no dressings or salt)
- complex carbs instead of simple ones
- focus on building muscle tissue instead of cardio
- experiment with caffeine cycling
- omega 3, multi vitamins, probiotics help during a deficit due to lack of complete nutrients.
- better to cut out carbs than healthy fats
- increase the calorie deficit by 100 when you reach a plateau
- use cardio as a tool to keep a deficit and eat slightly more
-always get back on the wagon when you fall off (real test)
 

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I’ve been single digits and there was no binging. You can hover around 15 percent and maintain that with binging if your still doing cardio and eating right most of the time.

To be honest I got way more attention from girls when I was in the 13-15 percent range. You look muscular and in awesome shape... you maintain your size.

I got down to 8 percent and looked skinny.. when my shirt came off I was shredded but how often do you walk around with your shirt off. Plus I felt like crap... my sex drive didn’t exist and I was moody as hell!

if you want single digits it’s keeping yourself in a caloric deficit and trying not to stall your metabolism. My advice is get yourself in the 15 percent range first and enjoy life... maintain that... and if your going to the beach diet and cardio up... get down is few more percentage points.
 

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You can never out train a bad diet.

Think I can comment on this one, lost over 25+% body fat ~ 100 lbs.

Currently at 17%, still going strong.

This is what I did:

- Download myfitnesspal
- Calculate your TDEE (use sedentary setting)
- Subtract 100 calories
- Track everything you eat(that includes ketchup)
- See how the weighing scale moves


Tips:
- have a glass of water before every meal
- have a full plate of vegetables before every meal (no dressings or salt)
- complex carbs instead of simple ones
- focus on building muscle tissue instead of cardio
- experiment with caffeine cycling
- omega 3, multi vitamins, probiotics help during a deficit due to lack of complete nutrients.
- better to cut out carbs than healthy fats
- increase the calorie deficit by 100 when you reach a plateau
- use cardio as a tool to keep a deficit and eat slightly more
-always get back on the wagon when you fall off (real test)
Yeah MyFitnessPal is frigging amazing. I used to track by hand... but this makes it so easy.

I track the same way. Putting my activity level at sedentary. I run for my cardio, and I use Adidas Running. I then add in cardio calories burned back. This works because I could do drastically different amounts of cardio each day, depending on how busy I am.

What kind of vegetables do you like? I personally enjoy spinach, and the canned kind with corn, carrots, potatoes, and peas.
 

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I’ve been single digits and there was no binging. You can hover around 15 percent and maintain that with binging if your still doing cardio and eating right most of the time.

To be honest I got way more attention from girls when I was in the 13-15 percent range. You look muscular and in awesome shape... you maintain your size.

I got down to 8 percent and looked skinny.. when my shirt came off I was shredded but how often do you walk around with your shirt off. Plus I felt like crap... my sex drive didn’t exist and I was moody as hell!

if you want single digits it’s keeping yourself in a caloric deficit and trying not to stall your metabolism. My advice is get yourself in the 15 percent range first and enjoy life... maintain that... and if your going to the beach diet and cardio up... get down is few more percentage points.
Yeah that's what I'm worried about regarding cutting down to single digit bodyfat. Looking small in a shirt, and having no energy or sex drive.

You're tempting me to just go for that 13-15! I'd feel a lot less stressed about my life if I just had to cut down to there. I want to look big, imposing, and masculine in a shirt as well.

How was your ab definition at 13-15? Did you have a visible six pack?
 
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Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Yeah that's what I'm worried about regarding cutting down to single digit bodyfat. Looking small in a shirt, and having no energy or sex drive.

You're tempting me to just go for that 13-15! I'd feel a lot less stressed about my life if I just had to cut down to there. I want to look big, imposing, and masculine in a shirt as well.

How was your ab definition at 13-15? Did you have a visible six pack?
Around 15 percent is when I have visible abs and decent vascularity. I feel awesome and can still gain strength while working out. I
Here is a great article.

 

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Yeah MyFitnessPal is frigging amazing. I used to track by hand... but this makes it so easy.

I track the same way. Putting my activity level at sedentary. I run for my cardio, and I use Adidas Running. I then add in cardio calories burned back. This works because I could do drastically different amounts of cardio each day, depending on how busy I am.

What kind of vegetables do you like? I personally enjoy spinach, and the canned kind with corn, carrots, potatoes, and peas.
Tracking cardio is great, I've been meaning to use a Fitbit for that but haven't decided if it's worthwhile.

I'd add, it's better to train for strength/hypertrophy first then add cardio if you have energy left.

1g/protein/lb of body weight puts me around 200 g protein a day.

5 meals x 40 grams protein

With each meal I eat around twice the weight in veggies and 20-30 grams fat, no carbs.

Lettuce, bell peppers, onions, zucchini, brocolli are my staples.

I cook and prep all my meals. No exceptions. That includes "cheat" or refeed meals.

Every 6 months I go on a reverse diet for a month and eat at maintenance, by adding starchy complex carbs.

Then go back to the same schedule.
 

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Tracking cardio is great, I've been meaning to use a Fitbit for that but haven't decided if it's worthwhile.

I'd add, it's better to train for strength/hypertrophy first then add cardio if you have energy left.

1g/protein/lb of body weight puts me around 200 g protein a day.

5 meals x 40 grams protein

With each meal I eat around twice the weight in veggies and 20-30 grams fat, no carbs.

Lettuce, bell peppers, onions, zucchini, brocolli are my staples.

I cook and prep all my meals. No exceptions. That includes "cheat" or refeed meals.

Every 6 months I go on a reverse diet for a month and eat at maintenance, by adding starchy complex carbs.

Then go back to the same schedule.
Yeah I love fitness trackers. I’m the kind of guy that wants to see the numbers behind everything, whether it’s my BF% going down(I use a scale to track it), how many calories I’m eating, or how many calories I’m burning in my workouts.

I just use the Adidas Running app, but I also have an Apple Watch. Those are nice if Apple is your thing. I hear Fitbits are pretty good too.

For lifting, I do Stronglifts 5x5. My ultimate athletic dream is to be somewhere in between a power lifter and distance athlete. I realize those are opposing goals. But I want the best of both worlds.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I used to box as an amateur. In my opinion, boxers body is ideal. Very athletic look. At 37 I dont spar anymore but I still stay in boxing shape by doing a boxing routine. I still do roadwork every morning 6 days a week. Here's what I do.


Abs
- 15 minutes of ab work daily 6 days a week

Cardio mornings
- daily run 3 miles while listening to a book or jump rope for 30 minutes straight (gets you in exceptional condition)

Muscle building in the afternoon
-weights 3x week 5x5 bench, military press
Squats, deadlifts, 200 pullups, 30 minutes heavybag (cardio too).


Main staples in diet
Steak
Eggs
Tuna
Brown rice
Whey protein
Potatoes
Greek yogurt
Shakes with kale and spinach
 

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Naturally it is virtually impossible to be “shredded.” However, as other posters have said the 8-15% range is achievable, desirable, and aesthetic. It’s mostly diet. Stop drinking. Cut curbs out. Drink only water, tea, and coffee.
Tips on what to do when your friends offer you drinks, or cook you a bunch of high calorie dense foods/snacks? Or want to eat where it’s tough to eat low calorie. EASILY the biggest issue towards me getting shredded(the social drinking being the biggest issue.) I calculate my deficit but when this stuff happens(often) I’m knocked into a big surplus.

idk. Sometimes I feel like all people do is eat sh*tty junk food and binge drink. Makes it soooooo difficult to stay in a caloric deficit.

8-15% does seem to be desirable based on this conversation. Vitruvian Physique says that 10-12% will make you look like an Abercrombie model.
 

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I used to box as an amateur. In my opinion, boxers body is ideal. Very athletic look. At 37 I dont spar anymore but I still stay in boxing shape by doing a boxing routine. I still do roadwork every morning 6 days a week. Here's what I do.


Abs
- 15 minutes of ab work daily 6 days a week

Cardio mornings
- daily run 3 miles while listening to a book or jump rope for 30 minutes straight (gets you in exceptional condition)

Muscle building in the afternoon
-weights 3x week 5x5 bench, military press
Squats, deadlifts, 200 pullups, 30 minutes heavybag (cardio too).


Main staples in diet
Steak
Eggs
Tuna
Brown rice
Whey protein
Potatoes
Greek yogurt
Shakes with kale and spinach
I love cardio and audiobooks. It’s my absolute favorite thing in the world. It passes the time so quick. What are you reading these days?

Thats a great list of “clean” foods too.
 

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Tips on what to do when your friends offer you drinks, or cook you a bunch of high calorie dense foods/snacks? Or want to eat where it’s tough to eat low calorie. EASILY the biggest issue towards me getting shredded(the social drinking being the biggest issue.) I calculate my deficit but when this stuff happens(often) I’m knocked into a big surplus.
Graciously decline. You have goals to meet right?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Tips on what to do when your friends offer you drinks, or cook you a bunch of high calorie dense foods/snacks? Or want to eat where it’s tough to eat low calorie. EASILY the biggest issue towards me getting shredded(the social drinking being the biggest issue.) I calculate my deficit but when this stuff happens(often) I’m knocked into a big surplus.

idk. Sometimes I feel like all people do is eat sh*tty junk food and binge drink. Makes it soooooo difficult to stay in a caloric deficit.

8-15% does seem to be desirable based on this conversation. Vitruvian Physique says that 10-12% will make you look like an Abercrombie model.
Find friends who share your goals too.
 

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I love cardio and audiobooks. It’s my absolute favorite thing in the world. It passes the time so quick. What are you reading these days?

Thats a great list of “clean” foods too.
I just finished Grant Cardones, 10x rule. Highly recommend. If you haven't read it, pm me your phone # and I believe audible let's me send it to you for free.

Yeah man. Reading is key. It makes people more interesting. Did you know CEOs read on average 60 books a year?
 

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Tips on what to do when your friends offer you drinks, or cook you a bunch of high calorie dense foods/snacks? Or want to eat where it’s tough to eat low calorie. EASILY the biggest issue towards me getting shredded(the social drinking being the biggest issue.) I calculate my deficit but when this stuff happens(often) I’m knocked into a big surplus.

idk. Sometimes I feel like all people do is eat sh*tty junk food and binge drink. Makes it soooooo difficult to stay in a caloric deficit.

8-15% does seem to be desirable based on this conversation. Vitruvian Physique says that 10-12% will make you look like an Abercrombie model.
Tips? It's called making a choice. What do you want? The body or the fun?

Personally, I'd just go out with them once or twice and week and eat/drink whatever you want, rather than every day. Trade the second day for an extra hard workout on another day. Who wants to hang out with the same people every day anyway? You should have more going on in your life from your work/purpose alone.
 

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I love cardio and audiobooks. It’s my absolute favorite thing in the world. It passes the time so quick. What are you reading these days?

Thats a great list of “clean” foods too.
I like listening to exercise and diet literature prior to training. Then I listen to game literature while training.
 

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...I want to get down to single digit bodyfat.

However, I can’t lose another pound. The reason for this is all the social situations: the binge drinking and eating out at restaurants that my friends always want to do.... I’ll never lose weight like that.

How do you all deal with this, SS family?
You answered your own question. You know exactly how to deal with it.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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