How women make it easy when they like you

[justhe_justin]

As I started to get more experienced at interacting with women, I realized how many opportunities my younger self had missed because I was simply unable to interpret the subtle signals various women would give me.
What's funny is that in their minds these signals must have been super obvious.

I've got the same question for you that I asked to BackInTheGame78. What would you realistically have done differently if you picked up on those hints? Did you have enough game to capitalize on the situation? In my experience, even if a woman is showing IOI's if you lack game she can drop interest in the blink of an eye.

Women don't know what they want.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

When a woman displays that kind of interest no game is needed. All I needed to do was suggest something and then show up.

Game is for the 40-50% of women that can go either way.

But you are correct, I had no game back then at all.

You might not have even needed it back then.

 

[justhe_justin]

Pretty simple. Cute ladies putting in that much effort get noticed. Sometimes it's good.

Good for you sir! I take it you have great conversation skills and social presence which has served you well.

 

[justhe_justin]

When a woman displays that kind of interest no game is needed. All I needed to do was suggest something and then show up.

Game is for the 40-50% of women that can go either way.

But you are correct, I had no game back then at all.

This is so vague to me. Like show up and do what lol? At a certain point you need to escalate things and it doesn't happen naturally. Bold moves and lucky body language reads still need to made on your part if you are to get her to bed, even if she has showed initial interest.

 

[coyote_astro]

I've got the same question for you that I asked to BackInTheGame78. What would you realistically have done differently if you picked up on those hints? Did you have enough game to capitalize on the situation? In my experience, even if a woman is showing IOI's if you lack game she can drop interest in the blink of an eye.

Women don't know what they want.

No I did not have enough game. Maybe some of these had such high interest that I could pull it off just by showing up.
Btw I think that there were instances when I could still sense they were sending me signals, but deep inside I was afraid I would not know how to handle it, so I never even made a move. Self-rejection or something like that.

I agree that game is overall important and quite helpful.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

No I did not have enough game. Maybe some of these had such high interest that I could pull it off just by showing up.
Btw I think that there were instances when I could still sense they were sending me signals, but deep inside I was afraid I would not know how to handle it, so I never even made a move. Self-rejection or something like that.

I agree that game is overall important and quite helpful.

What kind of game you feel that takes you over the top?

 

[BMX]

Someone said somewhere that it feels like they are in a porno when these hoes make it that easy for them. I can see that.

 

[justhe_justin]

No I did not have enough game. Maybe some of these had such high interest that I could pull it off just by showing up.
Btw I think that there were instances when I could still sense they were sending me signals, but deep inside I was afraid I would not know how to handle it, so I never even made a move. Self-rejection or something like that.

I agree that game is overall important and quite helpful.

Can someone please break down for me what it means when a woman has such high interest in you that you can bed her without game? What is going on in her head? Why would she have such a strong interest? What would you compare the arousal she is feeling to? How do you know to have the confidence that you can't **** it up? In my experience, I always feel like my chances with being intimate with women are hanging on on by a thread. Like the conversation is so fragile that one wrong word, or the slightest mistake will **** everything up. What gives you the peace of mind, that her attraction is strong and that the leeway is large.

I feel like just having the peace of mind that little to no game will be effective would make things much easier for me. Like, knowing how much it takes to get the girl to bed. Knowing it's a downhill ride and not an uphill battle yah know?

 

[metalwater]

Can someone please break down for me what it means when a woman has such high interest in you that you can bed her without game? What is going on in her head? Why would she have such a strong interest? What would you compare the arousal she is feeling to? How do you know to have the confidence that you can't **** it up? In my experience, I always feel like my chances with being intimate with women are hanging on on by a thread. Like the conversation is so fragile that one wrong word, or the slightest mistake will **** everything up. What gives you the peace of mind, that her attraction is strong and that the leeway is large.

I feel like just having the peace of mind that little to no game will be effective would make things much easier for me. Like, knowing how much it takes to get the girl to bed. Knowing it's a downhill ride and not an uphill battle yah know?

not sure what your looking for, but will answer as asked. I'll recall on specific, but it will happen as much as you want.

-Several ppl are together that you know at a place you know.
-From that meeting, a girl you don't know well invites you to come to her place; you agree.
-She sits you on a couch and puts on a TV. Hands you a drink.
-Sits next to you but doesn't say much.
-moves to kneel in front of you and suck suck suck, after she removes your stuff.

-her perception of my value was off the charts.

What I just described required nothing from me other than compliance, the only game was to not refuse. Many very small variations of this occur over and over. HOWEVER, If we are in a bad relationship being treated like crap, it will never happen and it will take time to rinse the smell after before it starts up again.

It just happens, flows like water downhill. The only thing you have to do is create the first step... "several ppl are together that you know at a place you know". Do that over and over and the problem will solve itself unless you have the HOWEVER thing.

 

[Focal core]

not sure what your looking for, but will answer as asked. I'll recall on specific, but it will happen as much as you want.

-Several ppl are together that you know at a place you know.
-From that meeting, a girl you don't know well invites you to come to her place; you agree.
-She sits you on a couch and puts on a TV. Hands you a drink.
-Sits next to you but doesn't say much.
-moves to kneel in front of you and suck suck suck, after she removes your stuff.

-her perception of my value was off the charts.

What I just described required nothing from me other than compliance, the only game was to not refuse. Many very small variations of this occur over and over. HOWEVER, If we are in a bad relationship being treated like crap, it will never happen and it will take time to rinse the smell after before it starts up again.

It just happens, flows like water downhill. The only thing you have to do is create the first step... "several ppl are together that you know at a place you know". Do that over and over and the problem will solve itself unless you have the HOWEVER thing.

This! For most part if any situation leads to no-where even you does initiates or she "seems" to initiate it, just pull out the plug, even you think she has a very high interest in you, chances are 90% they not, it could be just to fill water in that empty shell of hers.

Always most of the cases are she is leading you on. Dont fall for it..

So that explain mephorically when shes interested it would be so easy.

 

[bat soup]

As I started to get more experienced at interacting with women, I realized how many opportunities my younger self had missed because I was simply unable to interpret the subtle signals various women would give me.
What's funny is that in their minds these signals must have been super obvious.

I think that happens to everyone. There are so many totally obvious opportunities that I missed.

 

[bat soup]

When the bell goes off in your head, what do you do in response? How do you approach a woman differently when YOU KNOW she's interested vs. when you don't?

Just talk to her. The way she reacts will either confirm my impression or not. Or escalate. Sometimes you can start touching and kissing really quickly in these situations, but obviously you have to take one step at a time and keep watching her reaction.

 

[zekko]

Consider an interesting piece of research that found that women initiate up to 90 percent of all seductions. Women do this in such a discreet way, however, that most men believe they're the ones making the first move.

This didn't sound right to me, so I Googled it, and what came up was a bunch of articles about how women initiate most divorces lol. In fact, it said college educated women initiate 90% of their divorces! That's a bunch, because it's a common stat that women initiate 70% of divorces.

Anyway, whatever this research you found was, I can't help but wonder what they consider initiating? Eye contact? Sitting at a nearby table in a restaurant? That's not exactly heavy lifting. For that matter, I wonder what they consider seduction. Are they including a wife initiating sex with her husband? There's a pretty wide path there.

 

[coyote_astro]

And btw, I think I quite recently missed such an opportunity as well.
I was checking out this cute girl at the gym, and she noticed. Next time we were both working out, she moved much closer to me, positioning herself in a way that I could easily intercept her if I moved around.

I did not do ****. This whole social distancing/mask aspect makes feel that I would look weird approaching in the gym.
That was stupid of me, I mostly write it here to keep myself accountable.

 

[bcude]

This didn't sound right to me, so I Googled it, and what came up was a bunch of articles about how women initiate most divorces lol. In fact, it said college educated women initiate 90% of their divorces! That's a bunch, because it's a common stat that women initiate 70% of divorces.

Anyway, whatever this research you found was, I can't help but wonder what they consider initiating? Eye contact? Sitting at a nearby table in a restaurant? That's not exactly heavy lifting. For that matter, I wonder what they consider seduction. Are they including a wife initiating sex with her husband? There's a pretty wide path there.

Pease, A. (2014). Body Language: How to read others' thoughts by their gestures.
I don't know the details about the research, i just read the statement referring to that book as the source.
They probably asked women who were successfully picked up by a man after the fact if she was aware of the man and if she tried to show any interest by capturing his attention through the usual channels: Eye contact, Smiling, Communication, Preening, Touch. Where 90% said yes.
BeExcellent liking my post atleast tells us that one woman agrees and relates to that.
I don't find this strange at all. Like we use to say around here: highly interested women make it easy for you.

 

[metalwater]

Unless of course you run into a really shy woman.

Tell us about how to deal with the shy one, and how to know shy vs girl game.

 

[zekko]

I don't find this strange at all.

If by "initiating", they simply mean displaying positive body language, then I don't find it strange either.

It's interesting that women can capture attention through positive body language, when PUA theory tells men they should display disinterested body language.

 

[justhe_justin]

If by "initiating", they simply mean displaying positive body language, then I don't find it strange either.

It's interesting that women can capture attention through positive body language, when PUA theory tells men they should display disinterested body language.

Yep the whole "game" aspect of it makes my head spin. So ****ing dumb but we have no choice but to "play along" if we wanna get laid.

Things however would be so much more efficient and simple if women communicated directly. Win for both sides.

 

[zekko]

Things however would be so much more efficient and simple if women communicated directly.

And if men were allowed to communicate directly, instead of having to appear indifferent.

 

[zekko]

This idea of women initiating 90% of seductions keeps sticking in my head. How does that square with the idea that women are inundated with male attention and thirsty betas constantly trying to get with them? Look at all the OLD stories where women are bombarded with 100x the offers men get (or whatever it is)? Or is this just a case where if an unwanted male initiates, it doesn't count? Now if you say women initiate 90% of successful seductions, I could believe that.