"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Been out with a girl 3 times, then she took a week long cruise vacation, so no communication during that period at all.

On the last date before she left, we hooked up (3 times) after I took her to a casual dinner and out for an activity and drinks afterwards - she invited me in her condo for a movie, but not much watching happened.

Before she left, she initiated a lot of texts, we texted a bit and I invited her over before she had to leave town, but she was “busy” prepping for the trip in the week before she left. She kept initiating text with me, however, even though she couldn’t make plans with me before leaving. I would be charming and exchange a few messages each time, but never let it turn into full blown text convo chitter chatter.

Anyways, it’s been a day or two since she returned. I haven’t texted her at all and no word from her yet.

Wondering if I should just walk away and allow her to be the one to reach out? Or should I wait another day or two, then hit her up and try to coordinate another hangout/date plan?

Part of me realizes that her not contacting is signal enough, and I’m not affected by it that much since I have two other girls I’ve been dating and they’re both going super well.

Thoughts? If I do reach out and send a text to get back in contact, how would you do it?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Bruh, stop overthinking, it's not that serious.

Do whatever you want, if you like her or want to talk to her then call her, why are you waiting for her to make the move? Lol, you got nuts dont you?

Interest level trumps all, if she interested it doesnt matter what you do, everything will work out in due time.
 
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So what's going on with the women you met while she was gone?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Just hit her up dude. If she isn’t down to meet, she probably got railed by dudes hotter than you and thinks she can do better. And if that’s the case, just drop it. Sending a text takes like 30 seconds MAX.
 
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I once had a plate whom I chatted briefly via text and then had a great date, no sex. She went on vacation for a month. She sent a couple pics and some sporadic messages during the trip, to which I replied stupid nonsense. When she returned, I reached out, asked her about the trip, setup a date.

The second date ended at her place at 4am.

If you want to see her, reach out. Either she returns the communication or not.
 
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Roober said:
I once had a plate whom I chatted briefly via text and then had a great date, no sex. She went on vacation for a month. She sent a couple pics and some sporadic messages during the trip, to which I replied stupid nonsense. When she returned, I reached out, asked her about the trip, setup a date.

The second date ended at her place at 4am.

If you want to see her, reach out. Either she returns the communication or not.
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Exactly my point...OP is way way overthinking things
 
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