"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Cleared it with the mods! A thread I’ve wanted to do for years. Post your real life picture let the community help fix your looks!(completely optiona)

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Yea, others suggested it. I used to let it grow out and shave just once a week. My part time job allows beards BUT they have to be neat and trimmed which I hate trimming it. When I grow it out I look like Joe Thorton's beard. The guy on the SJ Sharks with the sloppy beard. Some suggest without facial hair I look way too young and kiddish for my age.
You don't need a full beard; 2-3 mm stubble will look even better. Buy a trimmer from Costco for $50 and use it twice a week (5-10 min per session). Also, your haircut is too short.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You don't need a full beard; 2-3 mm stubble will look even better. Buy a trimmer from Costco for $50 and use it twice a week (5-10 min per session). Also, your haircut is too short.
Look at Tanner Guzy, im not a fan of him but wow the ttansformation

He's a ginger, more of an orange color though.. Shorter hair the better. Most ladies do not trip over themselves with orange / gingers...
 

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Why when I go on Tinder or Bumble they're overweight a lot of times or located 35 or more miles away? Been a week since I saw anything over HB6 within 20 miles of me on those apps.
Your HB6, are my and most dude's here HB 2-3's. Take what you can get. I will agree with the 5 o'clock shadow though. It will make you look more masculine. You every edge you can get. Everyone told you to move, but you do not want to leave Mommy.. So, IDK.
 

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He's a ginger, more of an orange color though.. Shorter hair the better. Most ladies do not trip over themselves with orange / gingers...
Ik truth is most ginger men are at a disadvantage look wise.
But Tanner is a great examplenon how someone can turn things arround. Big improvement from what he started with
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Ik truth is most ginger men are at a disadvantage look wise.
But Tanner is a great examplenon how someone can turn things arround. Big improvement from what he started with
Maybe some scruff and a shaved head would work for him? Hard to say. @biggoal, do you have any friends or people who you can ask for advice in terms of IRL that are good with style? Do you know any gay dudes? They will prob. be good one's to ask on style.
 

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Maybe some scruff and a shaved head would work for him? Hard to say. @biggoal, do you have any friends or people who you can ask for advice in terms of IRL that are good with style? Do you know any gay dudes? They will prob. be good one's to ask on style.
I did have an lesbian manager (low end HB 7) once but she got transfered to another location. One year older than me. Instagram and FB hog she is.
 

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I did have an lesbian manager (low end HB 7) once but she got transfered to another location. One year older than me. Instagram and FB hog she is.
Ask her for advice. You need someone hands on IRL. Besides,, ladies love to do make overs.
 

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Maybe some scruff and a shaved head would work for him? Hard to say. @biggoal, do you have any friends or people who you can ask for advice in terms of IRL that are good with style? Do you know any gay dudes? They will prob. be good one's to ask on style.
Lean af and a weak chin, bad combo.
Def some scruff maybe a beard amd some weight on him
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Agreed. Weight gainer is perfect for him. It's the fastest way he can put on the LBS; but he also needs to push some iron.
Gaining weight doesn't do any good if you don't work out. It will go to fat. In my case the fat goes straight to my gut.
 

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Never done old

But i know getting a good shot can be very hard.
Im sure it can help greatly, but imo 1 or 2 prof shot is good, but other pic need to look non-proffesional.
That's true... unless you pay a good photographer.

And about normal photos that's something important. I use to have a mix of those.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I'm tired of OLD sites and how I have to drive 30 or more miles just to meet anyone.
That's not good in that point.

Maybe try some nice events (not parties)... You may found some nice girls in there.
 

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Gaining weight doesn't do any good if you don't work out. It will go to fat. In my case the fat goes straight to my gut.
What’s the status of your workout machine? Is it together yet?
 

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That's not good in that point.

Maybe try some nice events (not parties)... You may found some nice girls in there.
Like I said if you lived in my region and 60 or over you'd clean up down here. It's like the opposite age wise living in nyc or la for dating. But most girls decent ones at a min 45 miles away. That just wont work for a relationship and wont go anywhere. Why would a woman even reply to you if you're 60 miles away anyway. I'm up to 70 mile radius because 60 miles or less and I see the same handful of faces everyday.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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