"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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The classic woman with "pure" guy friends

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And I mean lots of guy friends...often drinking "buddies."

We all know them have all dated them and or pumped and dumped them.

What are your thoughts as far as if you see this?

Instant red flag that demotes them strictly to pump n dump?

Regardless of how attractive or otherwise desirable she is?

I feel like it's an instant red flag signal to demote to pump n dump instantly but have failed a few times with women like these from trying to take them serious instead of sticking to the code/game.

Like the old saying goes....the hottest women are usually also the most bat**** crazy and self contradicting.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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And I mean lots of guy friends...often drinking "buddies."

We all know them have all dated them and or pumped and dumped them.

What are your thoughts as far as if you see this?

Instant red flag that demotes them strictly to pump n dump?

Regardless of how attractive or otherwise desirable she is?

I feel like it's an instant red flag signal to demote to pump n dump instantly but have failed a few times with women like these from trying to take them serious instead of sticking to the code/game.

Like the old saying goes....the hottest women are usually also the most bat**** crazy and self contradicting.
How would "old school" man look @ this scenario?
 

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Yeah they’re crazy. But not just any type of crazy, like they’re worse than normal. That’s if they don’t have any girl friends. If a chick ONLY has guy friends, it typically means that other girls can’t deal with her bull****. And if girls can’t deal with her bull****, then guys definitely shouldn’t lol.

I find that it’s typically because bitches like this tend to make everything a competition with their girl friends. It’s likely because they’re narcissistic. Probably stems from daddy issues tbh. I mean every chick nowadays has daddy issues but girls like these probably have it more so than others lol.
 

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Well, I'm speaking just on the guy friends part....some of them have female friends too...but I know what u are talking about. Guy friends only is instant physcho non dating territory.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Can tell u from experience everytime I try to look past it and take one serious it backfires. It's fine if u just bang them and dgaf.
So within that frame work, you can still fvck them like a champ and get them hooked on you as a "dealer" of the dee.
 

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So within that frame work, you can still fvck them like a champ and get them hooked on you as a "dealer" of the dee.

Yes, with no attachment. Even if besides that one fact she seems like the perfect chick....no such thing of course but u know my meaning.
 

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Well, I'm speaking just on the guy friends part....some of them have female friends too...but I know what u are talking about. Guy friends only is instant physcho non dating territory.
In the "old school" format we could have opposite sex "friends".... But when you get in a relationship they back the fvck off. Your not talking to them hardly ever, your living your life with your man.
 

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One of the girls I am seeing is like that. She has girl friends too but a lot of single guy friends. I don’t consider her LTR material for that reason but I also don’t consider her pump and dump. No reason not to have a girl like that in your rotation in my opinion. The only risk is if you are worried you will catch feelings. Other than that, why worry about it? Just enjoy your time with her when you are with her.
 

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Yes, with no attachment. Even if besides that one fact she seems like the perfect chick....no such thing of course but u know my meaning.
Right, lol. If she "act"(s) like the perfect chick.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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One of the girls I am seeing is like that. She has girl friends too but a lot of single guy friends. I don’t consider her LTR material for that reason but I also don’t consider her pump and dump. No reason not to have a girl like that in your rotation in my opinion. The only risk is if you are worried you will catch feelings. Other than that, why worry about it? Just enjoy your time with her when you are with her.
Yes, this is the correct frame imo. Nothing past this though.
 

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only a small percentage of women are legit LTR material so if you hold every little thing against a girl you will be waiting a long time for that needle In a haystack.

Just have fun and enjoy her company and her pvssy and just go with the flow, follow your instincts.

Just have her as a fvck buddy and whatever happens, happens
 

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These women are typically addicted to male attention so they keep an orbit of as many men as they can get. They love stringing a lot of these men along like a dog chasing a steak on a fishing line. It is a crack to them. They will tell you they don’t have any female friends because they don’t get along with females very well. That is true in most cases too but it’s not the primary reason.
 

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The worst thing about women like this is that they think the fact they hang out primarily with male friends makes them somehow Superior to other females. You know, it's the whole I can't handle other chick drama BS when the reality is that they are the ones with all of the drama and have basically been voted off of female Island. Typically if women like this have a female friend or two they are much worse looking than her and that's not an accident.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I seriously don't like chicks like this just because of what u said....the self delusion and hypocrisy is so strong.
 

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If you could choose between associating with a group of people who were constantly praising you, doing chores for you, and giving you free stuff, and another that never cut you any slack, and always wanted you to listen to their problems, which would YOU choose?
High quality self respecting women don't need oh my validation from a bunch of guys who just want to **** her.
 

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Isn’t it funny about the collective tendencies women have? They are such unoriginal creatures. Not many genuine or authentic characteristic about em. We all have experiences with these aspects of women that are so similar or exact. When Star Trek made a female the head of the Borg collective, the Borg Queen, that leader character being female was no accident. It’s good to be a man.
 

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Isn’t it funny about the collective tendencies women have? They are such unoriginal creatures. Not many genuine or authentic characteristic about em. We all have experiences with these aspects of women that are so similar or exact. When Star Trek made a female the head of the Borg collective, the Borg Queen, that leader character being female was no accident. It’s good to be a man.
"One of us", like iRobot
 

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The only acceptable male friends are gay male friends. Before entering an exclusive relationship I make sure to bury all the straight male friends she has. Cut that shvt out before it starts.

All straight male friends are orbiters that want to fvck your woman. Even orbiters get lucky every once in a while.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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