"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hinge is my new favorite OLD app...

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Have been on Hinge about a month now and have had phenomenal results with it....3 lays, women contacting me first like crazy, almost everyone I message messages me back, more dates and numbers than I can handle and in general it seems like a much higher percentage of good looking women.

Highly recommend those who haven't tried it to try it.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Where are you using it and in what age range?
 

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Never heard of that, how does it work compared to tinder?
 

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Where are you using it and in what age range?
US...30-45.

And I prefer this age range before anyone comments about dating younger women. Noone will fvck you better than a horny woman in this age range trust me...and they are very open to experimentation even if they have never done something before.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Never heard of that, how does it work compared to tinder?
Basically your profile consists of answering 3 or 4 interesting questions from a whole bunch of questions they have available. Then you post your pics and name.

You can like either one of their questions or pictures and send a message which needs to be relatively short...something like under 100 characters...

Then if they decide to chat with you they reply back and its on like normal.

They can also like and reply to your answers/pics first as well if they want to.
 

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hah OP is 18 and dates fat 40 year olds
Nah, OP is 41 and dates in shape, good looking women in that age range that have real jobs, careers, know what they want and don't play silly games for the most part. Flake rate is almost zero.
And they love to fvck too because many of them are busy with kids/careers/etc and don't do it in between relationships.

Go have at with your 18 year olds that bring nothing to the table. That has no appeal to me.
 

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That's what I thought, I recall RooshV saying on his forum that guys who say they have great success with OLD are using it in NY, but now I can't find the quote.

I don't know how true that really is, but NY (and older women too) was what I was guessing and when that was right I remembered that Roosh statement. Not a dig on you, I'm glad for your success.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Its far better than anything else. I first used it about a year ago. Sometimes its best to keep what works good to yourself. Remember Tinder used to work pretty good too. ;) Once it turns into a sausage fest, everything goes down hill.
 

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That's what I thought, I recall RooshV saying on his forum that guys who say they have great success with OLD are using it in NY, but now I can't find the quote.

I don't know how true that really is, but NY (and older women too) was what I was guessing and when that was right I remembered that Roosh statement. Not a dig on you, I'm glad for your success.
I think I saw that before. Well duh NY would get the best results. Young city and one of the largest cities in the World. FB dating is also sorta like Hinge too.

I downloaded Hing but only gave me like 2 results within 35 miles. WTF is up with that lol. Same with Match. Maybe 2 users under 50 on daily in my entire county.

30-45? Posters give me flack on here going on dates with 40 year olds. Why the double standard?
 

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I think I saw that before. Well duh NY would get the best results. Young city and one of the largest cities in the World. FB dating is also sorta like Hinge too.

I downloaded Hing but only gave me like 2 results within 35 miles. WTF is up with that lol. Same with Match. Maybe 2 users under 50 on daily in my entire county.

30-45? Posters give me flack on here going on dates with 40 year olds. Why the double standard?
Cause you aren't getting laid and acting desperate
 

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That's what I thought, I recall RooshV saying on his forum that guys who say they have great success with OLD are using it in NY, but now I can't find the quote.

I don't know how true that really is, but NY (and older women too) was what I was guessing and when that was right I remembered that Roosh statement. Not a dig on you, I'm glad for your success.
Not really true. I and many guys I know don't do well with OLD and I'm in NYC
 

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Not really true. I and many guys I know don't do well with OLD and I'm in NYC
Unless you work 60 hours a week I don't know why one would even use OLD in a mega large city like NYC or LA. I'd think simply going out places you'd easily meet singles AND a lot better quality ones too. If I lived in LA I'd hangout at the beach, Venice boardwalk, etc. Anywhere lots of young people.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Not really true. I and many guys I know don't do well with OLD and I'm in NYC
Obviously not every man is gonna do well, OLD is not a good medium for men as a whole anywhere.
 

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Yep. If you're Gisele in her prime you become Gisele aged 34. If you're a 1, you go down to negative 1.
Gisele is still hot at 40. I got bashed on here last week for calling her a high end hb.

About a month ago I read a article by a feminist psychologist who said WOMEN outnumber men 3 to 1 on old rofl and that's why women cant find matches because too many women to choose from. Do people actually believe these c*nts? Fake news.
 

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Unless you work 60 hours a week I don't know why one would even use OLD in a mega large city like NYC or LA. I'd think simply going out places you'd easily meet singles AND a lot better quality ones too. If I lived in LA I'd hangout at the beach, Venice boardwalk, etc. Anywhere lots of young people.
LOL. I was working 60 hour/week in a large US West Coast city. OLD really helped.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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