"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Thanks for repeating my point I guess

And there's a difference between making an effort and "bombarding her home phone"
No, I was quoting you because you said this

Good post and worth exploring

The correct word though is pride

By approaching women you are gambling with your pride as a MAN

One must ask himself if this depreciation is worth it

I don't think it is

Tyler talks about letting go of ego, so there is some merit

I think the guys against DIRECT (including me) probably have the most self respect

Something to think about
Something to think about, sure. You have the most self-respect, as a married man that's been in a relationship for 10 years. Tell me more about why direct game makes me and @Espi less of a man.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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They called the aged emperor Tiberius, who'd retired to his Island villa with a flagging libido, an old goat fond of 'licking the lambs'. :p
 

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Lol not if you are surrounded by 18 and 19 year old girls)
If you want them just ask them out right away confidently and move on. Talk to them and think about sex at the same time and see where it goes)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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No, I was quoting you because you said this



Something to think about, sure. You have the most self-respect, as a married man that's been in a relationship for 10 years. Tell me more about why direct game makes me and @Espi less of a man.
Lol why are you butthurt over this

I didn't say you were less of a man

In fact I even implied letting go of ego might WORK

But some of us just can't

Seriously guys some thicker skin man

I didn't even try to attack you :rofl:
 
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Lol why are you butthurt over this

I didn't say you were less of a man

In fact I even implied letting go of ego might WORK

But some of us just can't

Seriously guys some thicker skin man

I didn't even try to attack you :rofl:
I'm not sore, just calling you out for not knowing what you're talking about.
 
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Yeah over 24 hours later on a totally different thread

Real cool
I read it then, and because espi responded I didn't feel the need. I quoted you in this thread because you pointed out how all guys get rejected, which is obviously true. Your smug response to my response led me to point out your hypocritical nature. You have zero experience cold-approaching women, so you should probably not comment on it.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I’m not so sure that they have “power”. I think men GIVE them power over them.

Thus it shows up in everything. She can get guys to paint her house for free.
 
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I’m not so sure that they have “power”. I think men GIVE them power over them.

Thus it shows up in everything. She can get guys to paint her house for free.
Men have no control over the power that is their natural desires, man. Why do I wake up with a boner? Why does every sexy little thing make my d1ck move? We can't overcome evolution, now matter how hard we try.
 

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Men have no control over the power that is their natural desires, man. Why do I wake up with a boner? Why does every sexy little thing make my d1ck move? We can't overcome evolution, now matter how hard we try.
You can control your actions. Do ya keep letting a girl string you along for dates who your attracted to but shes not putting out?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I’m not so sure that they have “power”. I think men GIVE them power over them.

Thus it shows up in everything. She can get guys to paint her house for free.
is this why people were telling me with that HB9 to stop kissing their arses and bowing down to them which enables them to have power over men?
 
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You can control your actions. Do ya keep letting a girl string you along for dates who your attracted to but shes not putting out?
Yes, I can control my actions. I'm not in prison.

Doesn't mean I don't have urges. Doesn't mean I don't want to fvck any attractive female that crosses my path.

See, Epic days was trying to put the blame on men, and I was pointing out that those sexual urges are natural.
 

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is this why people were telling me with that HB9 to stop kissing their arses and bowing down to them which enables them to have power over men?
Yes. But there’s more to it than that. A man has to be able to overcome his social conditioning. If you are looking at it from the context of the average man? Oh hell yes she’s powerful. But for absolutely no discernible reason whatsoever. No reason except she triggers a man’s biology. That’s all. She’s never going to be as creative as a man. She can’t even create romance. Only men can do that. She will reduce a standard boyfriend or husband to a shell.

Start asking yourself some questions. Where did I learn that women are so wondrous? What evidence is out there? Are they better cooks? Nope. Best chefs in the world are men.

Is she going to change her flat tire? Does she change the oil in her car?

Can she build a table? Can she give you an immaculately clean house? Nope.

A woman possess no power. It’s not the right DNA. So why do men turn into blubbering idiots?

They were trained from birth that women are goddesses. Thus more powerful than any man?
What dream world did this come from?
 

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See, Epic days was trying to put the blame on men, and I was pointing out that those sexual urges are natural.
My heavens you’re a stupid man. Hahaha
I’m putting it on a man’s training and upbringing in the feminine imperative.
 
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Yes. But there’s more to it than that. A man has to be able to overcome his social conditioning. If you are looking at it from the context of the average man? Oh hell yes she’s powerful. But for absolutely no discernible reason whatsoever. No reason except she triggers a man’s biology. That’s all. She’s never going to be as creative as a man. She can’t even create romance. Only men can do that. She will reduce a standard boyfriend or husband to a shell.

Start asking yourself some questions. Where did I learn that women are so wondrous? What evidence is out there? Are they better cooks? Nope. Best chefs in the world are men.

Is she going to change her flat tire? Does she change the oil in her car?

Can she build a table? Can she give you an immaculately clean house? Nope.

A woman possess no power. It’s not the right DNA. So why do men turn into blubbering idiots?

They were trained from birth that women are goddesses. Thus more powerful than any man?
What dream world did this come from?
Both of my grandmother's were better cooks than my grandfathers. Men didn't cook in those days.

Both of my grandmothers could change a tire, too.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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