PeasantPlayer
Master Don Juan
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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I do agree.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Just because you can have sex doesn’t mean you should. Save yourself for quality girls then go for the kill ASAP but if it is just a mediocre one save yourself and your energy
Exactly. This thread got me thinking. I never personally experienced an “upgrade” from low or medium interest to high interest.@Mike32ct Funny how a lot of PUA guys always preached "INCREASE HER INTEREST NOW" while a lot of old school guys were heavily into screening girls with already high interest. I always thought there were girls with high, medium /lowno interest, now i'm seeing more and more there are only two types. High interest and no interest. It made things much simpler and easier when I figured that out.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Sounds like a virgin who has too much programming by his mom.Just because you can have sex doesn’t mean you should. Save yourself for quality girls then go for the kill ASAP but if it is just a mediocre one save yourself and your energy
Now this is true.It's almost like her sexually attraction to a guy starts out high and then rapidly declines if he doesn't make a move.
Her sexual attraction doesn't start out say moderate and ramp up over time like some guys might think.
TLDR: The stock is already at a 52-week high. Sell now; don't hold it lol.
The puszy might be good though. So if your doing rotations you need to take it upon yourself to investigate her sexually.Just because you can have sex doesn’t mean you should. Save yourself for quality girls then go for the kill ASAP but if it is just a mediocre one save yourself and your energy
When we say "quality" on sosuave you have one group who thinks quality os a hottie whose a sharp dresser. She might be a terrible person. And another group says quality its not looks but how she is as a person. In my example it was a more nerdie girl whose not the best dresser but she fvcks with one man at a time and fvcks him like a champ.It can be a trap. Trust me having mindless sex though fun can cause HUGE consequences. It’s best if you save yourself for a quality girl. People like spaz who i know doesn’t get laid because of the way he talks will say otherwise but people who live in the real world know the truth
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
She was using you for attention. That same attention can be used to focus on what your doing or babes who are responding.How do you have sex with a woman that makes it almost impossible for you, yet she won’t leave you alone? She won’t come to your house, she won’t invite you to come over to her house unless her kids are around. Unless you plan on putting the moves on her in the parking lot then you ain’t getting sex. Yet she keeps calling and keeps texting, so I didn’t scare her off and she wants to hangout and make out and I’ve done EVERYTHING I can to escalate but it just didn’t happen. It wasn’t that I was waiting, she was forcing me to wait and I ended up friend zoned. That was my fault because I should have ghosted after date 3 but my point is it’s NOT always that guys aren’t trying to escalate it’s that they won’t allow you to.
The same **** I used on her works on every other girl I’ve ever dated and slept with. The ones that were attracted to me anyways. Never had a woman play so many mind games with me like that one did.
Well it took me awhile to figure it out. In my experience attention *****s won’t hangout with you, they’re fine with a few texts every now and then and when you ask to hangout they stop responding.She was using you for attention. That same attention can be used to focus on what your doing or babes who are responding.
It sucks alot of focus and attention out of your own life. They are a waste of time.Well it took me awhile to figure it out. In my experience attention *****s won’t hangout with you, they’re fine with a few texts every now and then and when you ask to hangout they stop responding.
Didn't you ask me how in PM and I told you how, did you do it Trump?The hard part in dating: For someone to make a video to tell men they should have sex with a woman asap.
The easy part in dating: For can someone to tell men how to meet and attract and an available, young, single, decent looking, educated girl who is not money or image hungry with no children and no divorces who has never tried online dating.
Along side Don Juan Discussion and The Mature Man, Sosuave should create another thread called The Bleeding obvious.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.