Waitresses were the most fun for me. I spent about 5 years in the service industry so bedded quite a few of them. They were all skanks. My last 2 gfs work in the financial industry and both were the adventurous type.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Women and occupations
- Thread starter Bokanovsky
- Start date
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
The same day?
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
Women are very competitive. So...why not?
Nurses are cool, just a tad adventurous, with clubbing etc.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
lamath
Master Don Juan
i dont think she the clubing kind , but the sexual innuendo type.
It will be fun, ill worry about her proffesion after round 3 lolll
Just bang, show no mercy, just don't project an overly eager stance early on.
Play it cool, let her seduce you 1st and then seduce her back like a pro.
lamath
Master Don Juan
Yep thats my plan.
Afternoon date however so probably not same day bang
A lunch date?
lamath
Master Don Juan
Coffee in the afternoon we are both not working tomorrow afternoon.
You think night venu is better?
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Change it to night or better yet an evening date since I assume this is the 1st date?
I'd suggest doing some fun activities 1st and after that there's something to talk/relate, take it from there.
lamath
Master Don Juan
I agree it would be best but im very limited where i live, all coffee shop are close after 5, and on week day no decent bar is open after 9pm
Any opinion on driving to a near by city thats about 30-40min away, not sure if driving there together in same car is a good idea.
Any opinion on driving to a near by city thats about 30-40min away, not sure if driving there together in same car is a good idea.
logicallefty
Moderator
My most positive experiences have been with nurses and IT. My worst experiences have been with daycare workers and low level gigs like retail.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
How was the sex with IT?
This works in ur favor.
Which girl doesn't want to get out of her small town to unwind?
Even the most rigid of girls wants adventure.
Take her there in the evening and spend the night.
Drive in the same car. Lead the way.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
lamath
Master Don Juan
Date set for tomorrow at a decent pub 40min drive from home.
She was very enthusiastic, im starting to think she just want me for my body will see tomorrow.
logicallefty
Moderator
One of them I would call “pretty good” sex wise and one “ok”. I think what I like most of all about them and what stood out as positive after the fact is that the two IT chicks I dated never tried to drag me into their financial affairs.
Same car.
Don't drive even if only tipsy.
Stay the night, don't worry about her, she already expects it.
lamath
Master Don Juan
One car obviously only fun stuff can come out of that.
Not sure about spending the night there, will see how things goes.
Thanks for advice, i seriously think she would have been disappointed if coffee date.
This is only reserved for after fvck....
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.