nicksaiz65 Odyssey

[GrowingPains]

The more rational part of me is saying to add her to my social circle, glow up and fvck her friends.

Boom, there's your answer. Never invite her to hang out unless she's bringing hot friends. Simple. Figure out what parties/events she's going to and go with. The red pill and Dr. Nerdlove both seem to be saying the same thing to me. "Get what you want". The only way she'll fvck you is if she perceives you to be high enough value. How can you do that? Be seen as high value by her friends. The only way you'll fvck her friends is if you meet them. So either cold/warm approach 'em.

but it really is an insult when a slvtty girl sleeps around with everyone but you

Listen man... you can't win them all. Life doesn't work that way. You say she's sleeping with everyone but is she really? I mean... I haven't fvcked her. You say it's an 'insult' but why use language that's so hurt? Is this ONE girl really that important that you keep thinking about her? She's not thinking about you. So tell me... does she deserve your attention? What are you gonna do to move past this?

Get your numbers up. "New girls are turning 18 every day. Not doing it right cuz." - @DEEZEDBRAH

I skimmed the article. But it really isn't saying anything different. Get your numbers up. Expanding your social circle is one way to do that. Just don't sit around like a puppy hoping that you being her friend will get you in her panties eventually. That's why people say don't be her friend. Definitely get your friend count up. It will have benefits beyond your sex life.

Don't take advice from bitter people. They take the point too far. The red pill isn't bitter, the red pill is awareness and truth. It has no emotional associations (bitterness, anger, etc).

 

[nicksaiz65]

Boom, there's your answer. Never invite her to hang out unless she's bringing hot friends. Simple. Figure out what parties/events she's going to and go with. The red pill and Dr. Nerdlove both seem to be saying the same thing to me. "Get what you want". The only way she'll fvck you is if she perceives you to be high enough value. How can you do that? Be seen as high value by her friends. The only way you'll fvck her friends is if you meet them. So either cold/warm approach 'em.


Listen man... you can't win them all. Life doesn't work that way. You say she's sleeping with everyone but is she really? I mean... I haven't fvcked her. You say it's an 'insult' but why use language that's so hurt? Is this ONE girl really that important that you keep thinking about her? She's not thinking about you. So tell me... does she deserve your attention? What are you gonna do to move past this?

Get your numbers up. "New girls are turning 18 every day. Not doing it right cuz." - @DEEZEDBRAH

I skimmed the article. But it really isn't saying anything different. Get your numbers up. Expanding your social circle is one way to do that. Just don't sit around like a puppy hoping that you being her friend will get you in her panties eventually. That's why people say don't be her friend. Definitely get your friend count up. It will have benefits beyond your sex life.

Don't take advice from bitter people. They take the point too far. The red pill isn't bitter, the red pill is awareness and truth. It has no emotional associations (bitterness, anger, etc).

Okay. The absolute worst thing that I could do for myself in terms of college is not having a social circle. So I guess I'll add her. And I'll definitely be fvcking her friends lol. She honestly is cool to hang out with at least: I refuse to have no friends in college. I'm gonna be putting myself out there as well. If I fvck, fine. If not, oh well.

Well the first thing I would do is get a Lay Report 5 and forgive myself for my past blunders. Getting laid by an HB7 would make me feel way better about my PUA Skills/my life.

But you know what I realized bro? The fact that HB Candice doesn't wanna sleep with me and I'm in the Goddamn friendzone? The fact that my approaches aren't going anywhere for the most part? IT'S MY OWN DAMN FAULT. I was mad at HB Candice, but the problem is honestly that I don't have any swag. And my game was wackkkkk too. I've touched on this before. But if I don't have rippling muscles, if I'm not repping at least 315 on the squat, if I'm not running 8Ks and above, if I'm not running tighttt game, and if I don't have the waves of a God, if I'm not self cutting and always freshly chopped, or not dancing/dressing fresh as fvck there's NO ONE I can point the finger at for girls not being attracted to me but myself. Fvck the "she'll like me for me sh*t, it's nothing but SMV. I'm just now getting that Blue Pilled delusion out of my head.

Now would you hang out with the married woman/group of women for social circle if you were me? I'd get more approach opportunities if I did. But am I being Cucked cause all that feminine energy and they're ALL fvcking other dudes? I'm asking this cause I'm gonna be up at school this summer to work towards my education this summer. But I HAVE TO get out to the club and the bars. Or I don't stand a chance of getting laid. But my bandmates are like the only people I'm cool with up in my college town over the summer. Long story short, if you were nicksaiz65 would you invite out married women and women with boyfriends so you could get out of the house, to bars, and therefore meet new women? I have male friends too but I just wanna make sure I'm not being cucked by inviting female ones sometimes. They're my bandmates/friends so what would you do? Sorry I keep asking this question but I'm trying to plan my summer and meet new women without being cucked. Or am I just bring shortsighted like the good doctor said?And idk if I should hang out with the other thugmaxxxed frat Bros. Are we even cool like that? Every time I make my own decisions I ruin my life lol.

Also, from engineer to engineer. My Tyrone engineering friend recently graduated. He said the women were all over him now that he had a degree. Just some motivation for you.

Cool little article I read today:

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-graduate-schools/articles/2019-05-02/what-can-you-do-with-a-computer-science-degree

 

[GrowingPains]

Okay. The absolute worst thing that I could do for myself in terms of college is not having a social circle. So I guess I'll add her. And I'll definitely be fvcking her friends lol. She honestly is cool to hang out with at least: I refuse to have no friends in college. I'm gonna be putting myself out there as well. If I fvck, fine. If not, oh well.

Well the first thing I would do is get a Lay Report 5 and forgive myself for my past blunders. Getting laid by an HB7 would make me feel way better about my PUA Skills/my life.

But you know what I realized bro? The fact that HB Candice doesn't wanna sleep with me and I'm in the Goddamn friendzone? The fact that my approaches aren't going anywhere for the most part? IT'S MY OWN DAMN FAULT. I was mad at HB Candice, but the problem is honestly that I don't have any swag. And my game was wackkkkk too. I've touched on this before. But if I don't have rippling muscles, if I'm not repping at least 315 on the squat, if I'm not running 8Ks and above, if I'm not running tighttt game, and if I don't have the waves of a God, if I'm not self cutting and always freshly chopped, or not dancing/dressing fresh as fvck there's NO ONE I can point the finger at for girls not being attracted to me but myself. Fvck the "she'll like me for me sh*t, it's nothing but SMV. I'm just now getting that Blue Pilled delusion out of my head.

Now would you hang out with the married woman/group of women for social circle if you were me? I'd get more approach opportunities if I did. But am I being Cucked cause all that feminine energy and they're ALL fvcking other dudes? I'm asking this cause I'm gonna be up at school this summer to work towards my education this summer. But I HAVE TO get out to the club and the bars. Or I don't stand a chance of getting laid. But my bandmates are like the only people I'm cool with up in my college town over the summer. Long story short, if you were nicksaiz65 would you invite out married women and women with boyfriends so you could get out of the house, to bars, and therefore meet new women? I have male friends too but I just wanna make sure I'm not being cucked by inviting female ones sometimes. They're my bandmates/friends so what would you do? Sorry I keep asking this question but I'm trying to plan my summer and meet new women without being cucked. Or am I just bring shortsighted like the good doctor said?And idk if I should hang out with the other thugmaxxxed frat Bros. Are we even cool like that? Every time I make my own decisions I ruin my life lol.

Also, from engineer to engineer. My Tyrone engineering friend recently graduated. He said the women were all over him now that he had a degree. Just some motivation for you.

Cool little article I read today:

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-graduate-schools/articles/2019-05-02/what-can-you-do-with-a-computer-science-degree

Degrees give you SMV boost? I missed the memo. Maybe the second one will get me laid lmfao.

Do you think you can hang with them without wanting to fvck them or feeling like you're being cucked?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I dont believe its good for your position to be out with women who have men that your not fvcking.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Degrees give you SMV boost? I missed the memo. Maybe the second one will get me laid lmfao.

Do you think you can hang with them without wanting to fvck them or feeling like you're being cucked?

You know the concept of potential energy? Degrees are just potential money. And we all know how women love money lol

 

[nicksaiz65]

@mrgoodstuff
@GrowingPains

Thought I'd answer you guys question in the same post. I literally don't care how long this journal goes anymore. I think there's some good ass info in here and you can see my progression.

But anyways. My goal is to be a Red Pilled Don Juan. I love Dr. Nerdlove's stuff but I think the fact that he doesn't believe in TRP is just wrong. You gotta lift, you can't let these women use you, you gotta not validate women. I find TRP has so much truth to it.

The Red Pill is about seeing the true world without pulling the wool over your eyes, right? Well I'll be honest with how I really feel and how I've fvcked myself over. Sorry if this sounds whiny but I'm writing how I feel with no filter.

I've been fvcking consistently like you said, @mrgoodstuff . I've had sex at least once a week for a while now. But it's not helping with how I feel about HB Candice and others. When I see her flirting with other dudes and I know she's sucking them off and fvcking them, it kills me on the inside. It makes me feel like I'm not good enough. And the fact that she's getting all the attention from me and then going off and fvcking my friend KILLS ME. I know I can't win them all. But DAMN.

It makes me feel like less of a man when these women hang out with me but give all their sexual attention to others. It just... doesn't feel quite right. Like I'm being emasculated. I just don't feel MANLY when I'm hanging with a girl and I know she's fvcking someone else. Like I'm their gay best friend or something. ESPECIALLY with HB Candice. It FEELS BAD, MAN. It especially especially hurts cause she's fvcking my thugmaxxxed friend. If I ever saw them hooking up I'd feel terrible. I know this is essentially oneitis but I'm fvcking other people too and it doesn't seem to help emotionally at least. I just want someone I have something in common and with, MUTUALLY. She might as well say "Hey you're not good enough but I'll **** your friend and rub it in your face!" I'm fvcking other girls. But I wanna fvck a girl that I have a lot in common with and we both really like each other.


But like ALL my friends are graduating this semester. Let's talk summer. Im not exaggerating when I say I'll have NO friends if I don't hang out with some of these girls. My original plan was to hang with the girls by going bar hopping and then fvck people through Cold Approach out there. But is that feasible?

So I don't know what to do, I've backed myself into a corner. I know I've been on this for days but this is a really big issue.

I need to double check but I believe TRP(which I'm essentially living my life by at this point) advocates against female friends.

And the crazy part is that I usually have fun hanging out with these females. But the reason I feel that slight unease is these feelings I wrote down. These feelings are beneath the surface but they're still there.
Lmao at the start of this journal I wanted to quit my job cause of this. A member advised that I stay to kill that romantic notion in my head. I did, and I'm fvcking other people but I still feel kinda bad.

I know I'm making a mountain out of a molehill but friends are extremely important in college. I'm not sure if I can make new ones like the super close friends I have now that are graduating, y'know?

And @GrowingPains to answer your question, I don't freaking know. I'm stuck right in the middle. On one hand they're cool and I need friends. But on the other hand deep down I wanna fvck(especially with HB Candice honestly, if I'm just being real with no posturing.) And TRP says no female friends.

But for instance, this summer. I need a Lay Report 5. Like I said, I'm pretty much just cool with my band. Do I hang out with the females and go to bars then meet other females to fvck? Honestly if I don't, I'm gonna probably be at the house.

So idk what the fvck to do about this anymore. I think Red Pill takes precedence but I just don't wanna be alone.

Daily Red Pill: Women don't love unconditionally. They love you for your assets and things

 

[GrowingPains]

But for instance, this summer. I need a Lay Report 5. Like I said, I'm pretty much just cool with my band. Do I hang out with the females and go to bars then meet other females to fvck? Honestly if I don't, I'm gonna probably be at the house.

What activities are you looking forward to this summer?

 

[nicksaiz65]

What activities are you looking forward to this summer?

Going home and going to concerts, seeing Endgame, recording this professional album with my band, taking lots of Computer Science classes and redeeming myself along with making academic progress, continuing to improve my dancing skills(Ive learned that if I approach dancing the same way that I would learning a violin piece then it can indeed be done) and bar hopping and getting a Lay Report 5.

See why the friends thing is important though lol? I need to make a decision sooner than later. Cause if I don't have people to bar hop or hang with my plan falls apart and I won't get laid.

But I'm hoping this summer will be fun and productive

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Going home and going to concerts, seeing Endgame, recording this professional album with my band, taking lots of Computer Science classes and redeeming myself along with making academic progress, continuing to improve my dancing skills(Ive learned that if I approach dancing the same way that I would learning a violin piece then it can indeed be done) and bar hopping and getting a Lay Report 5.

See why the friends thing is important though lol? I need to make a decision sooner than later. Cause if I don't have people to bar hop or hang with my plan falls apart and I won't get laid.

But I'm hoping this summer will be fun and productive

Do you really think HB Candice is fvcking and sucking off all or most of the guys she flirts with? Or is she fvcking the scrawny dork? Or is it Chad or Tyrone. Being her friend wint help you because she gets a rise out of putting her bullshyt in your face while knowing shes not going to fvck you.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Do you really think HB Candice is fvcking and sucking off all or most of the guys she flirts with? Or is she fvcking the scrawny dork? Or is it Chad or Tyrone. Being her friend wint help you because she gets a rise out of putting her bullshyt in your face while knowing shes not going to fvck you.

I really wouldn't be surprised bro, she's kinda slvtty and very overtly sexual. Except for when I try to escalate and get her sexual attention of course. I'll bet she does get a rise out of it, she was a complete attention wh0re towards me, just trying to jerk me around. Seems to be Chads and Tyrone's from what I can tell.

And deep down you're right. Growing Pains too. If I'm Red Pilled, I should know the friendzone is the ultimate validation for a woman.

I can't imagine a weaker frame. Hey, I tried to hook up with you but you rejected me. So now I'm gonna orbit you and give you all my nonsexual attention while you go and fvck Chad/Tyrone!

Also, being 100% honest, taking out a married woman that I'm not fvcking is kinda weird. I actually got called on it once. As AMS says, everyone will know that I want to **** her but I can't. How do I know that? A thugmaxxxed Tyrone told me "please tell me you fvcked her." And of course I haven't. She wants to get married, she can hang out with her husband! I feel as if this is literally a step away from being cucked. Either that or I'm overreacting. But I guess that's what a Red Pilled Don Juan would think.

Well I've opened myself up to the harsh truth. But this makes 2 major problems. One, I'm literally gonna have NO friends Fall semester and that is gonna be awful. Two, how am I gonna get laid over the damn summer? I don't have any bar hopping friends.

This is just a huge gigantic mess. I've accepted the Red Pill regarding this but I need to think about how I'm gonna actually handle it.

What would you do?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I really wouldn't be surprised bro, she's kinda slvtty and very overtly sexual. Except for when I try to escalate and get her sexual attention of course. I'll bet she does get a rise out of it, she was a complete attention wh0re towards me. Seems to be Chads and Tyrone's from what I can tell.

And deep down you're right. Growing Pains too. If I'm Red Pilled, I should know the friendzone is the ultimate validation for a woman.

I can't imagine a weaker frame. Hey, I tried to hook up with you but you rejected me. So now I'm gonna orbit you and give you all my nonsexual attention while you go and fvck Chad/Tyrone!

Also, being 100% honest, taking out a married woman that I'm not fvcking is kinda weird. As AMS says, everyone will know that I want to **** her but I can't. How do I know that? A thugmaxxxed Tyrone told me "please tell me you fvcked her." And of course I haven't. She wants to get married, she can hang out with her husband! I feel as if this is literally a step away from being cucked. Either that or I'm overreacting. But I guess that's what a Red Pilled Don Juan would think.

Well I've opened myself up to the harsh truth. But this makes 2 major problems. One, I'm literally gonna have NO friends Fall semester and that is gonna be awful. Two, how am I gonna get laid over the damn summer? I don't have any bar hopping friends.

This is just a huge gigantic mess. I've accepted the Red Pill regarding this but I need to think about how I'm gonna actually handle it.

What would you do?

You have to get rid of her because shes playing with you. She fvcked the scrawny dork too over you? She just likes playing with you.

 

[nicksaiz65]

You have to get rid of her because shes playing with you. She fvcked the scrawny dork too over you? She just likes playing with you.

Just another attention wh0re trying to pull my chain bro.

How hard a pullback would you suggest? Obviously I won't text her. But if I see her in the Cafeteria do I just say hi and then sit by myself somewhere else?

God I never realized all this. If there's one thing I've learned this semester it's how shallow and manipulative some women can be.

And I wouldn't be surprised if she did fvck the scrawny dork over me. Yes my SMV needs a boost but I know for a fact I'm not that damn ugly lol.

Ooh here's a really good one, y'know how I'm certain she's an attention wh0re(for me at least?) She can talk about sex with me over the text and flirt with me all day. But when I try to set a date and get her alone? That text just goes into the void. She let's me tongue kiss her once then dodges every kiss from then on and freaks when I try to escalate sexually.

Classic attention wh0re. You have to give them Two Strikes/an ultimatum just like Alan Roger Currie says. End of the day, this is NOT high interest behavior. And here I thought cause we both liked classical music she wouldn't do this kind of sh*t lol.

Inb4 someone says she's making my hamster spin, I just have to make sure this kind of situation never happens again.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Just another attention wh0re trying to pull my chain bro.

How hard a pullback would you suggest? Obviously I won't text her. But if I see her in the Cafeteria do I just say hi and then sit by myself somewhere else?

God I never realized all this. If there's one thing I've learned this semester it's how shallow and manipulative some women can be.

And I wouldn't be surprised if she did fvck the scrawny dork over me. Yes my SMV needs a boost but I know for a fact I'm not that damn ugly lol.

Ooh here's a really good one, y'know how I'm certain she's an attention wh0re(for me at least?) She can talk about sex with me over the text and flirt with me all day. But when I try to set a date and get her alone? That text just goes into the void. She let's me tongue kiss her once then dodges every kiss from then on and freaks when I try to escalate sexually.

Classic attention wh0re. You have to give them Two Strikes/an ultimatum just like Alan Roger Currie says. End of the day, this is NOT high interest behavior. And here I thought cause we both liked classical music she wouldn't do this kind of sh*t lol.

Inb4 someone says she's making my hamster spin, I just have to make sure this kind of situation never happens again.

Ignore. If your not fvcking she doesnt exist. She pulls your chain because she feels the power. Cut that cancer.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Ignore. If your not fvcking she doesnt exist. She pulls your chain because she feels the power. Cut that cancer.

I'll do it ASAP. Now that I write it on paper this looks terrible. HB Candice is gone.

Would you say to do the same with the married chick in my band? Thing is she's going to hit ME up and be like "hey let's write some music." What do I do about that? My original intent was to go clubbing with my bandmates but that might be a fvcking bust too based on this conversation. Bad assumption I guess.

And that makes it tough cause then I won't have any friends to bar hop with this summer. Which is gonna make it harder to get laid. I don't like going out by myself in a college environment.

What would you do about the married chick? Same thing, since I'm not fvcking?

 

[shouldbefun]

Dude, r u ok? Your use of specific incel vocab such as Tyrone is really upsetting.

Take a break my dude.

 

[GrowingPains]

I feel like you're over thinking this. Look, it's this simple:

You listed a lot that you're looking forward to. Use those as opportunities to make friends.

As we discussed before: making friends is also a numbers game. Put yourself out there. You will connect with someone eventually. 'Approach' cool guys you see. Make casual convos, ask em what they like to do, link up if you also like or want to try those things.

I really think it's best to let Candice go. She's causing you too much angst. And regarding whether you have friends that are women or not, don't think about it too hard. If you feel yourself starting to think 'what about red pill, what about Dr. nerdlove, why doesn't she wanna fvck ME!?' move on. It's not healthy to keep putting yourself into that kind of situation because as you can see it's doing nothing for you

If all you do this summer is take your classes, do those things on your own, and make a couple friends... Everything will be just fine. Everything isn't instant, Nick. Change takes time. Learn patience. Go for what you want like a lion, of course. But even the lion is patient while he stalks the gazelle.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Dude, r u ok? Your use of specific incel vocab such as Tyrone is really upsetting.

Take a break my dude.

Yeah man I'm just stressed out honestly. I'm just thinking about what I'm gonna do in general. I truly don't know. Like in terms of this friend situation and stuff. And my seduction and all that. And school too. I'm just gonna put some real deep thought into that.

I've been doing this journal for nearly a year but I still have a loooooong way to go. Crazy.

Also, fun fact, I nearly got arrested yesterday due to my drinking. I'm not gonna get blackout drunk anymore. It's not as cool as I think it is at all. Not conducive to an Engineering Future.

I guess I'm gonna have to put some deep thought into this friend stuff.

 

[nicksaiz65]

I feel like you're over thinking this. Look, it's this simple:

You listed a lot that you're looking forward to. Use those as opportunities to make friends.

As we discussed before: making friends is also a numbers game. Put yourself out there. You will connect with someone eventually. 'Approach' cool guys you see. Make casual convos, ask em what they like to do, link up if you also like or want to try those things.

I really think it's best to let Candice go. She's causing you too much angst. And regarding whether you have friends that are women or not, don't think about it too hard. If you feel yourself starting to think 'what about red pill, what about Dr. nerdlove, why doesn't she wanna fvck ME!?' move on. It's not healthy to keep putting yourself into that kind of situation because as you can see it's doing nothing for you

If all you do this summer is take your classes, do those things on your own, and make a couple friends... Everything will be just fine. Everything isn't instant, Nick. Change takes time. Learn patience. Go for what you want like a lion, of course. But even the lion is patient while he stalks the gazelle.

I'll try and relax on it. For now at least lol. I'll keep on putting myself out there. The classes are the most important thing, of course.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Dude, r u ok? Your use of specific incel vocab such as Tyrone is really upsetting.

Take a break my dude.

I may take a small break, honestly. My life is dedicated to either my purpose/mastering the Game now. And mastering my Purpose is a huge part of the Game lol

 

[nicksaiz65]

Final Grades/Cold Approach More

My final grades came in. My overall GPA this semester was a 2.9. Not the best thing in the world, but not terrible. I'll definitely take it.

I'm not satisfied of course, this Summer I'm going for a 4.0 to crush my purpose/GPA.

Not sure if I want to take Sociology or Statistics this summer. Statistics is at 7:30 AM, so idk about all that.
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My life has been so tedious lately, I just kinda don't wanna do this sh*t lol. I just listen to podcasts/radio/listen to music/Video Game Cope all day. I've seen lots of teachers do this and I finally understand why.

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Can you guys suggest some good places for me to Cold Approach women at night while I'm back home? I was thinking of just going out, being social, and hitting this weekly Music Festival a couple times before I go back to school. From there I'd go back to Bar Approaches.

Also, why is it that I can do an approach routine and easily get a woman's number but she'll never text me back? Not complaining, just curious. I'm guessing I need to work on my look and the connection I'm making with them.