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I can speak to this as I've been an occasional attendee at meetups for a little over two years. It's quite rare for people to pair off, become boyfriend-girlfriend. Even finding dates is rare. An occasional hottie rolls through but that's rare.

Meetup is for people who enjoy being alone together.
 

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I can speak to this as I've been an occasional attendee at meetups for a little over two years. It's quite rare for people to pair off, become boyfriend-girlfriend. Even finding dates is rare. An occasional hottie rolls through but that's rare.

Meetup is for people who enjoy being alone together.
Agreed, but I've had two other STRs from Meetup. This one is pretty attractive. She 5' 7'' and looks like Taylor Swift. So you're thinking I shouldn't reach out to her on Monday night to see if we're on for Thursday? One would think it would be a bit rare for a lady to give a guy she's known to ask if he'd like to join her and her attractive friend for drinks next week and then text her number from his phone. No?
 

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Agreed, but I've had two other STRs from Meetup. This one is pretty attractive. She 5' 7'' and looks like Taylor Swift. So you're thinking I shouldn't reach out to her on Monday night to see if we're on for Thursday? One would think it would be a bit rare for a lady to give a guy she's known to ask if he'd like to join her and her attractive friend for drinks next week and then text her number from his phone. No?
I was speaking about meetup more generally speaking rather than about your case in particular. Follow your intuition. I would definitely pursue things. I've hooked up with six girls (all attractive) from meetup in the past 2+ years so it's definitely possible. It's definitely easier in the big cities. Sometimes, there will be odd waves of pretty girls who are too naive to figure out meetup is a waste of time and get sucked into it for short periods who are actually willing to date rather than the old battlehags who are lifers.
 

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I was speaking about meetup more generally speaking rather than about your case in particular. Follow your intuition. I would definitely pursue things. I've hooked up with six girls (all attractive) from meetup in the past 2+ years so it's definitely possible. It's definitely easier in the big cities. Sometimes, there will be odd waves of pretty girls who are too naive to figure out meetup is a waste of time and get sucked into it for short periods who are actually willing to date rather than the old battlehags who are lifers.
It seems we're from the same home town in Queens, so I used that to my advantage. I kino'ed and talked aggressively and sexually to hint on things, she didn't bat an eye. We'll see. I can give it a shot and see where it goes.
 

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If you've met a Taylor Swift clone, then you've found a unicorn. Especially if you did so through meetup. I want to say I've met an 8 or 8+ through meetup, but don't think I have. I met an 8+ girl AT a meetup, but she wasn't a member of meetup. Easily the hottest girl I've met at a meetup event though. Meetup is fine for monkey branching, or having an excuse to be at a particular bar, restaurant or happy hour without having to fly solo.

The downside is that you can get so bored, irritated and tired from dealing with meetup people for an hour or two that you just want to go home rather than using it as a launching point for your night.

I've met several girls in the 7+ range and that's pretty hot as far as I'm concerned.
 
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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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If you've met a Taylor Swift clone, then you've found a unicorn. Especially if you did so through meetup. I want to say I've met an 8 or 8+ through meetup, but don't think I have. I met an 8+ girl AT a meetup, but she wasn't a member of meetup. Easily the hottest girl I've met at a meetup event though. Meetup is fine for monkey branching, or having an excuse to be at a particular bar, restaurant or happy hour without having to fly solo.

The downside is that you can get so bored, irritated and tired from dealing with meetup people for an hour or two that you just want to go home rather than using it as a launching point for your night.

I've met several girls in the 7+ range and that's pretty hot as far as I'm concerned.
True, but the few that I go to aren't that bad. I've been to ones which are as boring as watching paint dry, so I know what you mean.
 

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I didn't know her, and she came over to me.
So if anything she cold approached you. But in these situations, its not the same as doing a cold approach while you are walking down a street somewhere. People are at these places with the mindset that they will be open to talking to other people at this same event.
 

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So if anything she cold approached you. But in these situations, its not the same as doing a cold approach while you are walking down a street somewhere. People are at these places with the mindset that they will be open to talking to other people at this same event.
You really know how to rain on a man's parade dude. Mr. Positivity we should call you.
 

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You really know how to rain on a man's parade dude. Mr. Positivity we should call you.
How is it raining on a parade? If a woman comes up to talk to you how do you consider it a cold approach by you?

Approach is a verb. Verbs require some type of action. You were the recipient of the action not the initiator of the action. Hence you would be the aproachee not the approacher.
 

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How is it raining on a parade? If a woman comes up to talk to you how do you consider it a cold approach by you?

Approach is a verb. Verbs require some type of action. You were the recipient of the action not the initiator of the action. Hence you would be the aproachee not the approacher.
I did cold approach a couple of weeks ago, she was standoffish, so I backed off. We chatted about it for a bit, as she didn't recall, and I jokingly said you were a bit bitchy to me, so I walked away. She then was a bit surprised but it seemed to draw her in more to me. Weird.

I usually think a lady who hangs around you, invites you somewhere for drinks (it's a brewery) and shares her food with you has some interest in you. If I am wrong, then, let me know. Rather not make a fool of myself if I do not have to.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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At this point, you're not really doing anything productive.

You're trying to win arguments with guys online and telling yourself pretty stories about how these girls are into you. Don't waste time. They either put up or shut up. Make plans with them and proceed from there. They either go along or you move along.
 

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At this point, you're not really doing anything productive.

You're trying to win arguments with guys online and telling yourself pretty stories about how these girls are into you. Don't waste time. They either put up or shut up. Make plans with them and proceed from there. They either go along or you move along.
I did. We're on for this week.
 

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I don't have the game to do those meetup events. I went to one with a friend and I was a fish out of water. I was the youngest guy there by far (32 at the time) and not a single woman was UNDER 40. I was in high demand because I was only having to compete with mostly older socially awkward guys but I'll never do one of those things again. I met one decent woman that night that I thought I could tolerate a date with, but I never set anything up with her. Hats off to you, you scored two dates from that thing and they weren't old as dirt! Maybe I need to do meetup get togethers up north because they suck down here.
Reminds me of the urban dictionary definition. It is uncannily accurate:

Meetup whor
A women or man that signs up for several meetup.com events every day of the year and goes to at least 4 per week. They have no social lives outside of meetup.com
The women are fat, ugly old maid spinsters and the men are desperate pathetic losers with no game who can't get laid.
Are you a single fat btch over 35 desperate to pop out a couple of rug rats or snag a sucker? Then you're a meetup whor!
 

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Reminds me of the urban dictionary definition. It is uncannily accurate:

Meetup whor
A women or man that signs up for several meetup.com events every day of the year and goes to at least 4 per week. They have no social lives outside of meetup.com
The women are fat, ugly old maid spinsters and the men are desperate pathetic losers with no game who can't get laid.
Are you a single fat btch over 35 desperate to pop out a couple of rug rats or snag a sucker? Then you're a meetup whor!
No need to hate dude.
 

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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Where's the hate? That's what most meetups are like.
Not around me. The's 20's and 30's are pretty fun with young people. Sometimes, there are older people there, but the younger people congregate with the young members, and the older ones congregate with the older ones. If there were one's which were/are as dead as that quote suggested, I'd just bail.
 

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Not around me. The's 20's and 30's are pretty fun with young people. Sometimes, there are older people there, but the younger people congregate with the young members, and the older ones congregate with the older ones. If there were one's which were/are as dead as that quote suggested, I'd just bail.
I've been to both types as well. The 20's and 30's members are usually late 20's on up. And lots of members in their late 30's. So, not really that "young." They sometimes have people show up who are 26 and under but they are clearly in the minority.

From what I can tell, even the women in the 20's and 30's meetups are getting desperate since they are outside of their sexual prime (25 and under). Aside from married women, I count only a handful of women who are at least a 7 in the past 2+ years that I've attended any meetups.
 

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I've been to both types as well. The 20's and 30's members are usually late 20's on up. And lots of members in their late 30's. So, not really that "young." They sometimes have people show up who are 26 and under but they are clearly in the minority.

From what I can tell, even the women in the 20's and 30's meetups are getting desperate since they are outside of their sexual prime (25 and under). Aside from married women, I count only a handful of women who are at least a 7 in the past 2+ years that I've attended any meetups.
Very true. I guess being close to NYC that has a positive effect.
 

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Yeah I was attending meetups in/near a major metro area and the talent level has fallen off big time. Like off the cliff. 2+ years ago, it was pretty solid and now it looks like a dog show lol. The small town talent pool has gotten pretty bad as well.
 

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I've been checking the 20's/30's type meetups locally, 40 minutes away and 2 hours away. The scene has literally completely dried up for attractive women. It's literally zero attractive women available through meetup in a 2 hour radius. It's completely cratered.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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