"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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First kiss, french or not?

jnMissouri

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I ask because a girl I was recently dating, I made my move on our second date and she initially kept her mouth closed, kept it to a peck. Oddly enough she said that was nice just moments later. We are sleeping together so it's not about her so much as it made me wonder if a peck on the lips is not a better first kiss method?

-Not as much chance of rejection as it's quick.
-Leaves her wanting more.
-Shows sexual interest.

I'm thinking about keeping it to a peck on the lips for a few kisses in the future to see what the results are vs. just an all out french kiss right out of the gate. FWIW, I can't recall any other girl having an issue with a french kiss first kiss, but I wonder if this isn't a safer bet...from what I am readin on other forums, it seems like peck on the lips is the preferred first...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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jnMissouri

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If you're sleeping with her, then you should be able to kiss her however you want.
I not only can't believe that you made that comment, but that "mrgoodstuff" also "liked" your comment. Did you miss the part in the title of the thread where I said "First kiss" and explained that this was about first kisses with a woman in the body of the thread???????????

Where is orein? I'm sure he will tell me I'm a troll because I have reading comprehension above middle school...
 

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Bro I think I've only gave one girl a peck on the lips ONCE as our first kiss and that's cause I was being a *****. When I go for the kiss now I grab their face lol like on the chin area (Not forcing them or anything like that). Some girls are awful kissers though.

Kissed some random girl at a bar last thursday. And she bearly opened her mouth. It was such a turn off. But I've had that happened before with other chicks and thats just how some girls kiss. I go for the french but not so much tongue action. But fvck yea I want the first kiss to be a passionate one. Wtf is a peck...?
 

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Bro I think I've only gave one girl a peck on the lips ONCE as our first kiss and that's cause I was being a *****. When I go for the kiss now I grab their face lol like on the chin area (Not forcing them or anything like that). Some girls are awful kissers though.

Kissed some random girl at a bar last thursday. And she bearly opened her mouth. It was such a turn off. But I've had that happened before with other chicks and thats just how some girls kiss. I go for the french but not so much tongue action. But fvck yea I want the first kiss to be a passionate one. Wtf is a peck...?
This and be the 1st one to pull away
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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