zekko
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Online dating experts, I need your help
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
this girl liked me today - she's exactly my type physically but her profile is so weird
"420 friendly
Do not msg me if your just looking to chat not here for pen pals I’m here to meet so if your not capable of planning a date don’t msg me
I DONT DRINK looking for someone different then the rest let’s go get facials together let’s smoke a blunt not looking for boring guys that just want to grab dinner be creative and stand out from the rest
Instagram- miss_bugadi "
is this even worth messaging? Sounds like an annoying *****
What do you guys say once you're matched with a girl? Just have normal conversation? I feel like anything I want to say sounds so boring. I don't have a creative imagination
"420 friendly
Do not msg me if your just looking to chat not here for pen pals I’m here to meet so if your not capable of planning a date don’t msg me
I DONT DRINK looking for someone different then the rest let’s go get facials together let’s smoke a blunt not looking for boring guys that just want to grab dinner be creative and stand out from the rest
Instagram- miss_bugadi "
is this even worth messaging? Sounds like an annoying *****
What do you guys say once you're matched with a girl? Just have normal conversation? I feel like anything I want to say sounds so boring. I don't have a creative imagination
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Mike32ct
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Glasses are hot.
why she liked me then?
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I smoke once in a while but not really
holy ****ing god it is hard to find women on there who are classy, normal, not hippies, not weird vegan bitches, not trashy *****s, not single moms or chubby, etc...
sazc
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Welcome to online dating!
On my end they tend to be high school educated, single dad's, who are, financial zeros, can't drive a conversation to save their lives, and don't know what a gym is...and they all believe that are the SH1T !!
It ain't pretty online and I don't think you are built for it
If you use it as a complement instead of relying on it, its not as bad
why can't I get anybody to read my messages? I'm ok if they read it but ignore it but all my messges are still undelivered status showing
sazc
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I'm not sure you're ready for the anxiety that OLD brings.
Why haven't they read your messages?
maybe they don't check their account anymore? Maybe they only check their account once a week? Maybe they only check their account once a day? Maybe they're so busy with their families on the holiday they're not checking their online dating?
There's one of a thousand reasons they aren't reading your message, you need to not care and move on. These are strangers, they don't know you. Ehat they do, or don't do, shouldn't impact you.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
literally none of my messages are read
i understand if they read the messages but don't like me, that's fine but none of them are even read
You're going to run across several girls who you're attracted to but may not match your lifestyle. You should ask yourself if you're willing to compromise or if you should move on. This one should've been an easy no unless you're willing to blaze up with her.
As for no one reading your messages, don't sweat it. Like Sazc stated, there are numerous reasons they won't read or reply. If you let these things get to you, you'll end up anxious or miserable. Play the numbers game, message when you have some free time and keep an eye on it but don't let it rule you. It's good you're finally trying out OLD now calm down and keep at it.
guru1000
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This is true. Guru has 99% attractiveness and 90%+ trust/intelligence on all his pics. This is why he gets all the 8s and 9s of all ages.
Dave, as long as this guy Guru is in the picture, he's going to steal all your women. It's time to eliminate him.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
where do 8s and 9s even exist on dating sites? i think hottest female I've seen is a 7.5
mrgoodstuff
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Bigdave17 not even in a position to worry about relationships
is this just a NYC thing? I live 45 minutes from Chicago and the hottest I've seen online is maybe a 7.5
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.