"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I’ve told a girl at work I like her and do small favours, girl ignores me, will talk to me now and again.

After speaking to to a friend who has game, I have 2 options


1) ignore her totally, unless she iniaties even then one word answers. (If it doesn’t work, losing her as a friend totally)

2) talk to her still (friend zoned forever)


Also I have to see her outside work without asking her out, how can I manage this, without looking like a stalker

I don’t know which one to choose because I don’t want to ignore her and lose her being my friend,

I want to be her boyfriend if not a very close friend, but I have to choose one I’m struggling.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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dude just be normal around her right now, dont do anything especially texting. here and there talk is fine at work... dont just ignore her totally you will come off as a loser...
 

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Thanks

I won’t intiate anything.
Just say hi, etc in passing, I won’t approach either like if I see her at lunch.

according to her close friend who she likes, she goes for looks...and also she thinks I’m a downgrade.
 

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We use to be same department she works in a different department now
 

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I’ve told a girl at work I like her and do small favours, girl ignores me, will talk to me now and again.

After speaking to to a friend who has game, I have 2 options


1) ignore her totally, unless she iniaties even then one word answers. (If it doesn’t work, losing her as a friend totally)

2) talk to her still (friend zoned forever)


Also I have to see her outside work without asking her out, how can I manage this, without looking like a stalker

I don’t know which one to choose because I don’t want to ignore her and lose her being my friend,

I want to be her boyfriend if not a very close friend, but I have to choose one I’m struggling.
She plays games with you and you want her as a girlfriend for what?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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She thinks you are a dwongrade??????

F0ck this *****, but don´t ignore her completely, you may come off as butthurt.

If she thinks you are a downgrade, focus on yourself. Work out, have interesting hobbies, Imrove your finances, Improve your car, Improve your clothes, and get more plates.
 

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She does think of me as a downgrade even though her ex wasn’t good looking and neither is she.

I wasn’t meant to know she said that.

I walked past her today we were coming back from lunch and she was leaving, I said hi,

I should have just ignored her and only if she said something to me then said hi.

Get more plates?

I’m just gona ignore her start going gym change my clothes then When I look better talk to her.
 

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She does think of me as a downgrade even though her ex wasn’t good looking and neither is she.

I wasn’t meant to know she said that.

I walked past her today we were coming back from lunch and she was leaving, I said hi,

I should have just ignored her and only if she said something to me then said hi.

Get more plates?

I’m just gona ignore her start going gym change my clothes then When I look better talk to her.
How bout you stop wasting your time with her and focus your energy into improving your looks and mindset so you can then go find other women who are already interested?

Never waste time with uninterested women. 90% of men's problem with women stem from trying to make uninterested women interested.
 

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I am looking for other girls too.
i can improve my looks but how can I improve mindset.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I am looking for other girls too.
i can improve my looks but how can I improve mindset.
Losing the scarcity mindset by fvcking at least one currently interested babe. You should always have a source of puzzy.
 

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Cos I told her I liked her did that mess everything up.

As now she finds it awkard around me and cos people at work know maybe that’s why she doesn’t approach me

Then again even before that we never really chatted.
 

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Cos I told her I liked her did that mess everything up.

As now she finds it awkard around me and cos people at work know maybe that’s why she doesn’t approach me

Then again even before that we never really chatted.
Literally leave her alone. Find a chick that's bothering you for time and fvck her.
 

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She does think of me as a downgrade even though her ex wasn’t good looking and neither is she.

I wasn’t meant to know she said that.

I walked past her today we were coming back from lunch and she was leaving, I said hi,

I should have just ignored her and only if she said something to me then said hi.

Get more plates?

I’m just gona ignore her start going gym change my clothes then When I look better talk to her.
Bro, you're a straight male, correct?
Then you can never really know what a female finds attractive about a man's face.

Also, have you paid attention to the threads on this site? Women generally date UP while men date DOWN.

Ignore this chick. Even if it comes off as petty. IGNORE HER. Blatantly. Even she says hi to your face.

You already failed so you must do a hard reset.
 

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Bro, you're a straight male, correct?
Then you can never really know what a female finds attractive about a man's face.

Also, have you paid attention to the threads on this site? Women generally date UP while men date DOWN.

Ignore this chick. Even if it comes off as petty. IGNORE HER. Blatantly. Even she says hi to your face.

You already failed so you must do a hard reset.
Yes straight male

How did I fail?

What will ignoring achivie?

It’s so difficult almost impossible when you like someone that much, there must be a way to turn it around?, not a garunteed way.

How can I find one who’s interested in me


What about making her feel sorry for me telling her about a aggravated burglary I had?, and showing my picture?, not at work outside work. (House party etc)

Sometimes I’ve been with work friends and her.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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What about making her feel sorry for me telling her about a aggravated burglary I had?, and showing my picture?
Blackmail pettiness??? this is the worse thing you can do.
Man, you have a lot of work to do. Start yesterday.
 

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Blackmail pettiness??? this is the worse thing you can do.
Man, you have a lot of work to do. Start yesterday.
I’m not gona blackmail her, just tell her end of story, like I’ve told other friends
 
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