"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
mrgoodstuff
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mrgoodstuff
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Ain't no fitness model but it'll do.
RickTheToad
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No doubt.
mrgoodstuff
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Glassguy
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Something is fvcked with her teeth and eyes. Other than that, have a good date, escalate, bang her and spin her as a plate. And keeping adding more chicks.
Everyone has to start somewhere in this dating game and I've smashed slightly worse than her.
Everyone has to start somewhere in this dating game and I've smashed slightly worse than her.
mrgoodstuff
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Most of the guys in the site can bang close to this level and it'd get them In the game.
logicallefty
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I would hit it. Borrow your d|cks. And hit it again.
RickTheToad
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Yea, the teeth caught my eye too. I do not see anything wrong with her eyes though. No one's perfect, but we'll see. I'm no Mr. Olympia, so whatever happens, happens. She's within 30 mins., so that's a plus.
One of the ladies I am talking to is half jew half italian (didn't even know they made those) and still lives at home in her 30's. The living with parents thing bothers me, but she's only 8 miles away. I am supposedly seeing her tomorrow. We'll see. I've dating jews and italians and they seem like nothing but trouble. Trying to go into it with an opened mind. I've skipped most who've messaged me who've are living with parents. However, she's been messaging me for a few months on different platforms and I'd thought to give it a shot and see where it goes.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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Good deal man. Get out there and have fun. To expectations other than escalation (if the date is going well).
RickTheToad
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That's the plan. A little older than I originally wanted, but I thought it could be a stepping stone to get back to younger ladies. This also assumes they still look like their pics.
Dust 2 Dust
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6/10 on my scale. I'd do it.
Mike32ct
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Yeah I would.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
RickTheToad
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Side note, one of the other ladies I was chatting with over the weekend sent me her number and I texted her a few hours ago. Silence. I double checked the number to make sure I typed in in correctly, but it was. Do I wait a few days and then reach out again or via the online app? She was pretty quick to respond to my messages on the app, so it's a bit puzzling.
Dust 2 Dust
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No sense in trying again. She saw your text and chose not to respond. You will get ghosted like a mofo on those apps.
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Like I always say, they are either fvckable or not fvckable. No in between. If they are fvckable and fun, continue but proceed with caution as always.
If you want to rate on a numbers scale, go for it. Those are my 2 brackets. 80% of women that are between 25 and 35 fall into the not fvckable because I am picky and they require more than good looks for me to even hook up.
Hmmm. I probably wouldnt bang her. I always go for chicks with a slamming body with a butta face or a chick with a cute/pretty face with a little bit of meat. this chick doesnt seem to meet that criteria, but you do you bro!
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.