"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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article: Girls on Tinder do smash. A lot!

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https://www.girlsaskguys.com/sexual-behavior/a22977-girls-on-tinder-do-smash-a-lot
We asked questions to 300 guys and 300 girls who use tinder about their sexual experiences. They were easy to find since it seems to be extremely popular with people from ages 18 to 35! Here are some results that surprised me.

- Unlike I thought, 240 of the 300 girls actually had sex through tinder! Only less than 50 of the 300 men, which is remarkable.
my opinion: :mad:
The opening lines that worked, were often extremely flat but to the point. One that seemed to work was just "wanna smash".

- It appears that these dates where sex was involved were mostly not related with hopes for relationships, just casual sex. The sex in most cases happened on a first date or even just immediately at someones place.
:rolleyes:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Guys who aren't afraid of being direct when the situation calls for being direct will succeed more than the ones who don't
 

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240/300 is 80 %

50/300 is 16.6%

So 80% of girls are having sex with 16% of men.

Not exactly earth shattering. Genetics indicate this was happening long before even electricity was invented.

The opening lines these 16% guys are using isn't pretty irrelevant. That they are in the top 16% is the only part that is relevant.

Trying to emulate their success would be like wearing the same color tie as the top salesperson at your company.
 

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And people wonder why there are a rise of STDs; which some are now resistant to antibiotics.
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Glad to know that 16% of the guys are banging 80% of the girls while 100% of the guys are paying 80% of the taxes...where are the social JUSTICE warriors when you need them?

Dont get me wrong I fully support freedom of choice, its just that if women give their fruit to few then they shouldnt expect the many to support a welfare system they benefit from.

Mark my words when the average guy finds out that he has been tricked, lied and taken advantage, his reaction wont be the best one....no government will mean sh1t when a critical mass of betas gets mad.

Think of "atlas shurgged" for the best option, think of london riots for the worst.
 

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Glad to know that 16% of the guys are banging 80% of the girls while 100% of the guys are paying 80% of the taxes...where are the social JUSTICE warriors when you need them?
My answer to this was to retire early and have the government pay me! :lol:
 

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If the 80% of women on tinder are having sex with the 16% of men on tinder having sex it means only the top 20% are having sex with 99% of the ladies .
That would represent the single world . 20% are having lots of sex and the others take the crumbs they can get. We've talked about these numbers in theory, but it's wild to see it play out .
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Women are courted, so obviously it is a much higher percentage of women having sex. They dont have to put any amount of work into the process. All they need is a picture and a pvssy
 

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I am not surprised at this at all. In fact, you also have to remember that many women don't 'count' a sexual partner who they didn't enjoy the sex with. So its possible that some of those remaining 60 women had sex too, but they just didn't enjoy it. And maybe even a few hated it so much that it became 'rape'.
 

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Being direct works. Although some that have questioned me saying that on this forum disagree with me and I'd put them in that 80% that's not easily smashing.

It takes a no blinking confidence to pull it off and it isnt a blueprint that works with all women. But if the sexual attraction is there on her part it most definitely will work.

The faster you bang a chick the quicker it is to get them chasing you if you remain cool and chill.
 

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I've never used the "wanna smash?" directness. I have shot a few messages back and forth, taken it to whatsapp, taken it to voicenotes then calls and arranged a date where I smash first time. That to me is being direct. I'm not hot enough to scatter gun "wanna smash" and get success. I am however charming enough over the phone to get a girl to want to meet, then charming enough in person to get them to smash. It's actual game, not Chad accident game I'm talking about.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Oh, to hell with "unless you're a Chad, you won't bang directly". You might have to work harder than Chad, but if you bang, you do so on skills + looks, meaning you're actually better than Chad in talking your way to ***** and talking your way to something is a skill, having good genetics is luck.
 

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When I was on OkCupid last year, several women, average looking, just messaged me to have fun and see where it goes. My pragmatic brain wouldn't chance it. If they were offering it to me, a stranger that she hadn't even talked to, heaven only knows how many other men have been through her in the last week; let a lone the last month or more. I know I am a bit more cautious than others, however, I had an STD scare years ago, and it's just not worth the risk. Call me the voice of reason, not the voice of getting it on. All for getting it on, AFTER a full STD screen. Ask a woman to first take an full STD screen before sex, I will bet you a dinner at a fancy steak house that she'll jet. I know, because it's happened to me plenty of times.
 

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Betas who are “direct” never get laid. Only Chads do.
Beta has nothing to do with it. This obsession with beta and alpha is the single most stupid thing on this board.

Looks have no beta or alpha component.
 

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Beta has nothing to do with it. This obsession with beta and alpha is the single most stupid thing on this board.

Looks have no beta or alpha component.
Agreed. Beta / alpha is a more of a mindset. Doesn't really play into initial attraction. However, it can have an effect on how one's presents themselves to others.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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