MatureDJ
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
article: What Happens to Men Who Can't Have Sex
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
RichardTheFrog
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Why don't they just pay for it?
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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I would say two reasons.
1. They want a girl that genuinely likes them and is attracted to them. When they see other guys hooking up or having gfs, the idea of paying someone just doesn’t seem like the same thing.
2. A lot of these guys are really nervous around women, so paying for it and having to perform during a quick one hour session terrifies them.
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They can have sex. They choose to not put any effort into making themselves into a man women want to have sex with.
Men are not victims. These ridiculous posts making men out to be these wimpy, "woe is me" victims are everything that is wrong with men in society these days.
We control out destiny.
Men are not victims. These ridiculous posts making men out to be these wimpy, "woe is me" victims are everything that is wrong with men in society these days.
We control out destiny.
mrgoodstuff
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Man needs to take responsibility for self.
mrgoodstuff
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When you complain about something around 2-3 times and don't take action on it you start putting yourself in "victim mindset" ( woe is me ). "Victim mindset" is useful for nothing at all but staying stuck in a position you don't want to be in.
I guarantee someone going years complaining about women or not getting enough ***** is going to go some more years complaining about women not getting enough *****. Once he stops complaining and taking action instead, his world around him will change.
RichardTheFrog
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Maybe they should get over themselves and realize they're just a utility. Sad but true.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
mrgoodstuff
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Richard
Don't have such a bleak outlook. Some of us have had or had women that love us almost as much as our mother. They loved who we are.
But 90+% of the guys that come to this site are asking how to game a attention wh0re or how to raise her interest . For that type of woman you are utility . You are a wallet, a provider, or you have social boost or connections or her friends like your circle . So yes your being used cause she's a H0E! And she should be used too! As a HO3. When it stops being fun replace her.
btownbuck2012
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This article is what happens when the feminist social narrative dominates our culture.
RichardTheFrog
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Can't have sex = no prostitutes.
Prostitution is natural.
Prostitution is natural.
ChristopherColumbus
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Yes, all this 'victimhood', whether first order [feminism] or second order [reaction to feminism] is built on the premise that I deserve to be happy [lacking here is any expression of gratitude and piety]. People simply do not understand that life is suffering [thanks to ideology], and the whole point of culture is to overcome this suffering. It really is a sad state of affairs.
mrgoodstuff
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Relying on prostitute means you can't get sex without cash.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
ChristopherColumbus
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This article just pushes the orthodox line of the 'normalization' of sex. But imagine you were a more sensitive soul [a teenager?] that refused to look at life through a set of banal spectacles, and saw something more significant in sex. And then in associating 'incels' in the article [wow, there is a word for it] with potential mass murderers, it all starts to look a bit nasty... that people who are not engaging in casual sex are weirdos.... or losers.
mrgoodstuff
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Victim mode is weak. If man takes women away from the epicenter of his life he can be successful and be happy with no to minimum women . Be on your purpose. Complaining about feminism even if it's reality is weak . What are you going to do about it?
RichardTheFrog
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: the only difference between "incels" and "normal guy just not f*cking right now" (heck, even just "normal guy" in general) is a sense of entitlement and a pathetic lack of interest in developing social skills or self-improvement.
If you sit around crying all day you're not getting laid, strangely enough you're not going to get laid. How about going to the gym, or learning how to talk for 5 minutes without coming across like a total weirdo?
I've seen ex-soldiers with horrific facial injuries get girlfriends, and these goofballs who look pretty good most of the time sit around complaining their looks aren't good enough.
Not to mention that a lot of these guys almost seem to resent women and constantly sit around blaming them for their own inadequacies. And that's such an unattractive worldview even I feel repulsed by their total lack of balls and self-esteem, so women must see it like Kryptonite.
No one wants to date the guy with no social skills. No one wants to date the guy who thinks he's smarter than everyone else but actually he's unemployed and plays videogames for 16 hours every day. No one wants to date the guy who thinks he's really tough but actually he can't lift a 10 kg weight.
In fact: I know a guy who's 25 years old, he still loves Pokemon and dresses up like Pikachu in his FB profile pic, he's 3/10 in looks, he's 5'6", he's got a bad job and he's skinnyfat.
He still got laid.
Self improvement versus self pity. That's the difference between "incels" and "normals".
If you sit around crying all day you're not getting laid, strangely enough you're not going to get laid. How about going to the gym, or learning how to talk for 5 minutes without coming across like a total weirdo?
I've seen ex-soldiers with horrific facial injuries get girlfriends, and these goofballs who look pretty good most of the time sit around complaining their looks aren't good enough.
Not to mention that a lot of these guys almost seem to resent women and constantly sit around blaming them for their own inadequacies. And that's such an unattractive worldview even I feel repulsed by their total lack of balls and self-esteem, so women must see it like Kryptonite.
No one wants to date the guy with no social skills. No one wants to date the guy who thinks he's smarter than everyone else but actually he's unemployed and plays videogames for 16 hours every day. No one wants to date the guy who thinks he's really tough but actually he can't lift a 10 kg weight.
In fact: I know a guy who's 25 years old, he still loves Pokemon and dresses up like Pikachu in his FB profile pic, he's 3/10 in looks, he's 5'6", he's got a bad job and he's skinnyfat.
He still got laid.
Self improvement versus self pity. That's the difference between "incels" and "normals".
mrgoodstuff
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Hot girls have some regular dudes that's part of their social circle that hits it. Stop putting them hoez on a pedastal. They are flesh and blood like you .
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.