"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
5 date in been at her house till 2am but only smooched on the sofa how to escalate?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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If she's making out with you, she clearly finds you physically attractive. That's not something people you're platonic with do.
You should never go in super heavy too fast for her like a creep, but at the same time sitting around getting blue balled night after night like that is showing a willingness to get pushed around. A weakness. She probably enjoys the control she has over you here.
Next time you're making out, I'd get her close and then say something like "You're really f***ing sexy." Then you can kiss her again and let your hands wander a bit. If she stops you then, I'd stop all the kissing and cuddling, sit up and say "You're not into this?" If she says she is, you can say "But you don't want us to get physical?" and that will make her give you a definitive answer. If she says she's not into it full stop, tell her you had a good evening and leave there and then. Don't contact her until she messages you. She'll realise you're not just her plaything, and have to reflect on her behaviour.
You can watch box sets alone if you want to! Inviting you round late, alone, to snuggle and make out on a sofa over and over again is a natural precursor to sex. If she doesn't want to get physical she should stop inviting you over and go on a coffee date in public or something instead. It's not fair on you, and if you put up with it you're setting yourself up to get treated like a eunuch.
he keeps going bk to her mate, what he needs to do is totally withdraw attention, she thinks hes her little toy, no sex and shes talking about him meeting the parents lol............shes got plans for him thats for sure
She knows the game for sure. Her interest is sub 50% but she doesn't want to be alone so she is using OP to fill time.
My bet is this is the only girl OP is seeing and she knows it. He is probably the only guy she is seeing and her intetest in him sexually isnt there. She is waiting for the next guy to come and when he does OP will get ghosted.
As marmel said. Start seeing other women. Withdraw most attention you are giving her.
Your attention should be focused on women with high interest.
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Huh?
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OP brought up this girl was engaged before he met her. There's no need to rush and no time wasted in the bedroom. I also brought up she can hold out as long as SHE is comfortable. There's just nothing he can do. She comes with baggage or damaged goods. Looks like a red flag if you get me....
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His job isnt to stick around for 6 months following your advice til she is "comfortable".
So let me get this straight...you are cool with being her gay friend for 6 months while some dude she met 40 minutes ago in a club has her panties down around her ankles in the bathroom banging her out?
You are right about nothing he can do other than escalate and walk away if she continues this behaviour. She isnt going celibate...she has probably already banged aomeone else, just not him.
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Hehe, check out his new thread Marmel. He got lucky
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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Marmel it's the dating period. It's always standard 6 months before you make her your girlfriend. And from what he says she's not being flaky or rushing territory. He stood his ground and scored. So Yea... It's not a always a sign she will sleep with someone else.
Let's be clear rushing into the relationship is a red flag
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Its never a mans job to seek a relationship, its a mans job to seek sex. Stop advocating he play a feminine role in the relationship.
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I was going to say the same. Unless the dude can offer fun and excitement....nah, that would just make a fun friendship....some dudes are not seen as sexual beings to some females. Make her a wing woman...