"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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It has to be the biggest turn off for me, no matter how good looking they are if they smoke its a deal breaker for me. A couple women I've been trying to get to know one is mid 20s the other mid 30s both decent looking women...... had my suspicions they smoked...... found out they do smoke. I'm talking about cigarettes, women that smoke pot is also a turn off.

The mid 20s girl I think, really why in the hell would you want to smoke its a nasty habit that ages you, and no guy wants to kiss an ashtray, I also think the same thought with the mid 30s girl.

What's your guy's thoughts smoking a deal breaker?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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051AV said:
It has to be the biggest turn off for me, no matter how good looking they are if they smoke its a deal breaker for me. A couple women I've been trying to get to know one is mid 20s the other mid 30s both decent looking women...... had my suspicions they smoked...... found out they do smoke. I'm talking about cigarettes, women that smoke pot is also a turn off.

The mid 20s girl I think, really why in the hell would you want to smoke its a nasty habit that ages you, and no guy wants to kiss an ashtray, I also think the same thought with the mid 30s girl.

What's your guy's thoughts smoking a deal breaker?
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What does "trying to get to know" even mean?
 
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I don't see it as a deal breaker, but certainly not a good sign for a person. It means their mouth will smell occasionally or more often than that AND it means they choose a rather damaging way of handling stress in life.
 
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If it's 1 or 2 cigarettes, on occasion more, not a problem. However, if she smokes a pack a day, I have to wonder of her level of self-control.

Chicks with no self-control, cannot be trusted. Huge red flag!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Its kinda what I thought women that smoke is a turn off/deal breaker for most guys. When I seen my ex light up a smoke for the first time I said what are you doing. She only smoked when she was stressed she knew I didn't like her smoking so she didn't do it while we were together. Her current BF smokes like a chimney so I imagine she's smoking just as much as him.

A pack of cigarettes in Western Canada is on average 15 dollars some people smoke 2 packs a day not sure how they can afford it. Women that smoke I can't even think of them sexually, the smell affects their body odor right down to their feet, no thanks.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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We have this hot Asian girl working in HR killer body and all but when I saw her outside smoking I just totally got turned off..
 
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Well if they only smoke when they drink like I do, then it's ok. I can go a couple weeks without touching a cigarette, and like I said I only smoke when drinking.

Besides, you miss out on a lot of chances with girls, or meeting new people if you dont smoke when you go on a night out. I've pulled a fair amount of girls from the smoking area of clubs alone.

Scientific studies show regular smoking is what ages you, not irregular small sessions of a couple cigs while you drink once a week.

If they smoke while sober, and daily, then yea it's a problem. On the upside girls who smoke a lot tend to be quite kinky and good in bed.

I guess for me the smell is not too bad. I grew up with my dad smoking in the house. Therefore the smell of cigarettes on someone won't bother me as much as someone who did not grow up with a smoker in the household.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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RichardTheFrog said:
You are such a tough guy. Omg.

Mods: Why is this allowed?

PS: Are you black?
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its allowed for the same reason you telling people to "suck your robot c0ck" is allowed. and the same reason you crying about women on here and how much you hate them and how beta and ugly you are is allowed.
 
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If she smokes tobacco no.....If weed I have no problem with it.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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