"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
First date fck. LTR material? Or rather an LTR with your hand?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
devilkingx2
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if i bang her on the first date and she has been single for a while, I won't hold that against her. if I bang her on the first date and she hasn't dumped her boyfriend yet, then hell no I wouldn't date her.
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devilkingx2
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see, I disagree here. the quality of not wanting to have sex with me all that much isn't something I want to screen for or reward.
I feel like if a girl holds out on you there's a 1/10 chance that it's because she's truly not that kind of girl,
and a 9/10 chance that it's because she's gold digging, keeping you as a backup, just bored and looking for free meals, trying to manipulate you with sex, trying to unload her baggage about how all her exes just used her for sex onto you, turning over a new leaf where the first 20 guys she banged got it on the first date but you need to put a ring on it first, etc.
if I'm turning down the opportunity to have sex with a girl, i don't like her very much, why would it work any differently for women?
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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I didn't say I reward. Just makes me think a little that she might be a worthy hunt and the fangs come out. I like a challenge.
I'm from a somewhat small place, so it's not too hard to find somebody, that knows somebody that, knows something about a woman I might have an interest in. I don't really care that much either way.
Not the one X5.
More so a novelty, than anything. Picking up women for sex these days is alot like those guaranteed bag hunting reserves. A challenge just gives me an opportunity to sharpen my teeth. I don't particularly care what her rationality is behind wanting to hold out, although I can respect it. If she wants to use her pvssy to get a free meal or a wedding ring, I can't hate. I'm just not the one. Guys mack to come up everyday.
It's the Jews.
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Such a double standard. Weak minded individuals putting someone else down to make themselves feel superior, when 9/10 they're out there doing the same chit.
devilkingx2
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they pick the one they'd prefer to be and find guys who like those. there are guys out there who date strippers and porn stars so it's not like every dude in the world hates slvts, and there are guys out there who wait until their wedding night to take their bride's virginity (and there are guys who wait until their wedding night to have sex with a girl who isn't even a virgin but refuses to put out til she's married again)
alternatively they simply find the middle ground between being a sex hating prude and a no self control slvt
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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Where do these labels come from though?.?. Other people! Are these ppl labeling you paying your bills, going to be by your side on your death bed, care about you, etc? I take into consideration the people close to me and myself. There are things that others do, that I don't agree with and I might even be outspoken about it, but in the end, it's not really my business in the first place. Other than ppl who gain by deception. Ppl shouldn't be so naive either. If I'm doing something that genuinely makes me happy, I could give 2 chits about a label put on me. Ppl are going to talk regardless.
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Girl goes on a date.. Does not screen the guy.. She has sex on the first date, next day he ghosts her (He got what he wanted)
Girl goes on another date.. Does not screen the guy.. she has sex on the first date, he jizzes all over her face, few days later he dumps her (He got what he wanted)
Girl goes on another date.. Does not screen the guy.. Things get steamy, he fingers her in the cinema, jizzes all over her titties, next day he ghosts her (He got what he wanted)
Girl meets YOU 2 months later... SHE IS NOW YOUR GIRLFRIEND
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
...so what? unless you only date 15 year olds she's going to have a history of doing stuff before you. as long as she doesn't then proceed to make you wait til date 5 when those other guys ****ed her in the club bathroom an hour after meeting her, then it's perfectly fine.
AttackFormation
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The real question is this... does she respect and want to fvck you at least as much as her past men? Yes/no.
Ok, so you said yes to that, but you still don't want her because she's had sex with other men. So, ask yourself why you need a virgin woman? and you'll realize it's actually just a weakness. You need a virgin woman to boost your ego since you feel incomplete yourself, you need the external ego validation to feel like a man despite having a woman who likes you, respects you and wants to be with you. I would guess most men don't want to confront this and of those who do, only a minority would be able to accept it. Most men just won't think about it or are too stupid to do so even if they tried and just condemn those women who do sleep with them as slvts and those who don't as prudes.