"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I dated this 8.5/10 chick for 2 months. Everything was going great until she dumped me out of the blue. She said didn't feel feel a connection and didn't see a future for us. The sex was great, but I acted kinda immature, she was three years older than me, and she made more money than me.

After one week of no contact I texted her and wanted to meet up to talk (big mistake I know). We talked but she didn't want to get back together.

Two days later I unfriend her from facebook, and a day later I saw her re-appear on tinder. A week after unfriending her I sent another friend request and a text saying it was immature of me to delete her. She re-added me as a friend and said that was ok, but didn't text anything else to me.

From there I did another week no contact and texted her again asking how her job was going and if she wanted to meet up for a drink some night (another mistake). She replied and said she was good but it wasn't a good idea to meet because it would mean more to me than it would to her. Two hours later I replied with an angry text saying I shouldn't have even asked to meet for a drink and if she knew it wasn't working she should have dumped me after a month. She didn't reply.

I then went 21 days no contact. I went on dates with other women from tinder but these girls were 5-6's at best. After 21 days I sent my ex a short message saying I shouldn't have sent that angry text and sometimes it takes me a few failed attempts before I get the message it's over. I was trying to be funny, but unfortunately she didn't reply. That was one week ago.

Here's the thing. Why doesn't she just delete me on facebook or tell me not to contact her anymore? Not replying to me just seems cold.

I know she hasn't added any guys as facebook friends in the 6 weeks she has been on tinder. I know because I check her recently added facebook friends a few times a week (I realize facebook stalking is bad).

I'm tempted to just block her on facebook, but am confused because she isn't dating anyone and she told me she has been on anxiety medication in the past. She was also the best sex I ever had. I guess if I go 100% no contact she may eventually message me, but that is a very long shot and may take months or years.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Bro when a girl tells you "its over." you disappear like a magician. Any type of messages, texts, get togethers, and you are just validating her decision.

A woman 3 years older and making a higher salary is only good for sleeping with. If you are looking for something long term, she'll be looking to make your head spin.
 

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I dated this 8.5/10 chick for 2 months. Everything was going great until she dumped me out of the blue. She said didn't feel feel a connection and didn't see a future for us. The sex was great, but I acted kinda immature, she was three years older than me, and she made more money than me

After one week of no contact I texted her and wanted to meet up to talk (big mistake I know). We talked but she didn't want to get back together.

Two days later I decided to unfriend her from facebook, and a day after that I saw her re-appear on tinder. A week after unfriending her I sent another friend request and a text saying it was immature of me to delete her. She re-added me as a friend and said that was ok, but didn't text anything else to me.

From there I did one more week no contact and texted her again asking how her job was going and if she wanted to meet up for a drink some night (another mistake). She replied to my text and said she was good but it wasn't a good idea to meet because it would mean more to me than it would to her. Two hours later I replied with an angry text saying I shouldn't have even asked to meet for a drink and if she knew it wasn't working she should have dumped me after a month. She didn't reply.

I then went 21 days no contact. I went on dates with other women from tinder but these girls were 5-6's at best. After 21 days I sent my ex a short text saying I shouldn't have sent that angry text and sometimes it takes me a few failed attempts before I get the message it's over. I was basically trying to be funny, but unfortunately she didn't reply. That was one week ago.

Here's the thing. Why doesn't she just delete me on facebook or tell me not to contact her anymore? Not replying to my texts just seems cold.

I can see that she hasn't added any guys as facebook friends in the 6 weeks she has been on tinder. I know because I check her recently added facebook friends a few times a week (I know facebook stalking is bad).

I'm tempted to just block her on facebook, but am confused because she isn't dating anyone and she has told me she has been on anxiety medication in the past. She was also the best sex I ever had. I guess if I go 100% no contact she may eventually message me, but that is a very long shot and may take months or years.
How do you know she thought the sex was good?
 

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You're wasting your time. Block her immediately and move on. Find a new woman. You can't go back.
He can't go back, but she can come back to him. They usually do. Frame it around a meeting, don't spend a bunch of time chit-chatting.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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If it ever happens again, say "OK" then walk. If there was even a slight chance of her coming back to her, you blew it by trying to maintain some or any form of contact with her. It just shows you have no self respect nor value.

I've done it in the past too. It has never worked and is a complete waste of precious time and energy.
 

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Forget the hooking up with you did with her. That's ancient history. Block her and stop checking her FB. Now. Time to vanish and focus on new prospects.

 

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As the poster above stated, you're giving her an ego boost with the whole FB thing. Also making yourself look desperate which makes you less attractive to her. Let it go, you will only drive yourself more crazy if you don't.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Remove the FB and all other social media and you will remove the temptation to stalk her every move. Plus she will realize that you cut all ties and it will drive her nuts, not that you will care because she will be blocked.
 

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Eastcoastguy- I'd suggest you stop worrying about her and start worrying more about yourself. You have a lot of maturing/learning to do. This girl was straight up with you. She wasn't being confusing, she said there was "NO CONNECTION". Get over yourself.

You are acting like a needy little game playing beta biatch.
 

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Thanks for the advice everyone. It's helpful to hear different points of view.
 
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