wifehunter
Master Don Juan
Right, if you're a catch...she must catch you! Duh, beavis!!!
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Men who declare exclusivity too soon?
- Thread starter ThisNThat
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
ImTheDoubleGreatest!
Master Don Juan
It's not that. She just thinks that she can do better than you. She can still be really into you, but if she sees some other guy who she thinks is better than you, you will cease to exist.
Krueg
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I asked for exclusion once, after three months of dating. She told me she wasnt sure or isnt ready so I dumped her; Then she came crying back, I was a "Nice Guy" and took her back. Then she dumped me a couple months later..
Women are more concerned about Relationships, Marriage, Kids... So when you wait for them to ask for Exclusion, you know she is Interested.
Women are more concerned about Relationships, Marriage, Kids... So when you wait for them to ask for Exclusion, you know she is Interested.
nismo-4
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I never make the exclusive talk first. I keep my heart a good distance away. Sure, it's been years since my last LTR, but if they don't talk exclusive with me, neither will I.
Also don't move too fast, or you'll get dropped or friendzoned.
Never entertain exclusive talk unless sex has happened several times.
Also don't move too fast, or you'll get dropped or friendzoned.
Never entertain exclusive talk unless sex has happened several times.
True regarding commitments, not regarding sex. A man should have sex as soon as possible with a woman for psychological reasons.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
The first time I made love to my most recent girlfriend (versus sex) was about 10 weeks after we first had sex.
I accidentally implied I was talking about a commitment (I wasn't) and I literally saw the fear in her eyes. And lots of guys do this on the first date before ever having sex!
Five weeks later (week 15) she was the first to say "I love you" and she brought up the idea of exclusivity, saying "I love you, and I don't want to restrict you, but I don't want to think you are with other girls.." (I didn't agree to commit but neither of us has been with anyone new since).
So it goes:
1) Dating
2) Sex
3) Making Love
4) (Time)
5) She brings up commitment
6) You resist
It does NOT go:
1) On the first date he tells her she is not allowed to be with other men or else he declares her a no-good ho.
Skyline
Master Don Juan
I agree with @deesade
Obviously don't go looking for it with a girl that you barely know... Use some common sense at least.
If you're not looking for a relationship then don't bother ever bringing it up. Not all men value the same things.
But one thing that's universal is frame. I feel frame is far more important than asking a woman to be exclusive.
Obviously don't go looking for it with a girl that you barely know... Use some common sense at least.
If you're not looking for a relationship then don't bother ever bringing it up. Not all men value the same things.
But one thing that's universal is frame. I feel frame is far more important than asking a woman to be exclusive.
Roober
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Women push for relationship early, you go along with it, you are likely to get dumped. If you are just supplicating, fall head over heels for her, then presume to be the pansy beta boy along for the relationship ride, she will get bored. You do things on your terms.