"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Did I just dodge a bullet?

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Dumped a girl I'd been dating.
We all know rose coloured glasses can cloud judgement.

Red flags:


Tattoos, piercings, dyed hair
Clingy/Controlling
Tells me how she pranked her dad with wrist cutting (WTF?)
Self harm- for fun/during arguments
Divorced parents
Sadistic stories against an ex
Bitching about other girlfriends/exes/relatives she knows
Creepy talks about murders/dead people/cemeteries/suicides/castration

Teens be whack these days.
What just happened?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You avoided a bloodshed there, man, like...creepy talks about cemeteries and dead people LOOOL
 

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she sounds... like you're probably going to get murdered for dumping her
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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A couple of people say it's BPD/Daddy Issues, can anyone relate?
 

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Are you kidding or asking for applause for dancing with her? It doesn't matter what the name of her issues is, leave that to a shrink. Just be happy that you're out early enough, because yes, you did dodge a bullet to answer your main question.
 

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A couple of people say it's BPD/Daddy Issues, can anyone relate?
It could be a number of issues, I see A lot of posts pertaining things like this from girls on fb,funny thing is there all single and brag about this stuff. It's not your problem man don't let her take up your head space she sounds immature as ****.
 

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Better question is why did you starting dating her at all?
I'm not here to justify anything.
A couple of months in the beginning were great. None of the crazy.
Then soon enough I could realise something was off with her stories which made no sense.
Felt like she's lying about the weirdest things, things which don't need to be lied about.
I became paranoid, call it being gaslighted, then I saw her family people being nuts as well with her mother with her own daddy issues and a sister with self harm tendencies as well.

I think I definitely dodged a bullet recalling all this.
Just going to focus on self improvement and myself now.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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dl, I'm asking this sincerely in order to gain insight. With your forum name and your initial attraction to this girl, how do you present yourself to the world? Do you have that "Goth" look (I'm not even sure if that's a relevant term anymore), or a sort of dark, bad-boy image? Are you normally attracted to tattoos, piercings, dyed hair?

Again, not trying to make a point here. This is simply curiosity.
 

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dl, I'm asking this sincerely in order to gain insight. With your forum name and your initial attraction to this girl, how do you present yourself to the world? Do you have that "Goth" look (I'm not even sure if that's a relevant term anymore), or a sort of dark, bad-boy image? Are you normally attracted to tattoos, piercings, dyed hair?

Again, not trying to make a point here. This is simply curiosity.
I appreciate your curiosity.
I do have several tattoos and disregard of other people in general, I won't call it being a bad boy.
I'm intrigued by cunningness, genius manipulations, thrills and sociopathic traits to imbibe them myself for gains.

My attraction to the girl wasn't based on her tattoos or piercings. I didn't see them before I slept with her and considered her the sweet girl she acted to be.

My perspective was and still is that nothing anybody else does affects me.
Call it having extremely strong boundaries. I stood up to her at every moment she tried to violate MY OWN boundaries.
Her reaction to this was to go nuts and show her crazy side to piss me off.
I absolutely don't care what anybody else does as long as it doesn't affect me directly.

I started reading about daddy issues and BPD here and could see the patterns fit.

Abandoned father
Self harm
Insecure around good looking females
Drama
Compulsive lying
Long history of exes
Guy friends 'who weren't really guy friends'
Obsession with gore and cute things both
Talking about stalkers
Bitching about other women/Drama

I think my biggest mistakes were not setting HER boundaries but unfortunately I find that as being weak. I believe if a girl respects me she won't automatically do anything to hurt me, if she does, off she goes.

Extricated myself quick knowing she might screw my life up and it would get harder if I stayed longer even though I had feelings and posted this.
 
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I'm not here to justify anything.
A couple of months in the beginning were great. None of the crazy.
Then soon enough I could realise something was off with her stories which made no sense.
Felt like she's lying about the weirdest things, things which don't need to be lied about.
I became paranoid, call it being gaslighted, then I saw her family people being nuts as well with her mother with her own daddy issues and a sister with self harm tendencies as well.

I think I definitely dodged a bullet recalling all this.
Just going to focus on self improvement and myself now.

The only reason I asked is that in almost every case with crazy women there are always small fissures in the facade that men typically miss or ignore, which if observed and thought about should lead the man to the conclusion that the woman has no long term viability as a relationship partner.

Part of a woman qualifying herself, isn't really discussed. Yes, it's an attraction switch but it is also a way to see if a woman is worthy partner.

Women always joke about the first date being an interview, but men should be asking questions that can elicit certain responses or behaviors to weed out low quality women just like an interview. It's similar to how a woman has her ***** shield up. Men should have their low quality radar on at all times.
 
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