"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Advice on dealing with a POTENTIALLY attractive girl?

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Some epileptic married chick is obsessed with me, and me thinking I desperately need to break this dry spell of mine have fed into her lusting for me, sexting, phone sex.

She's fat, not attractive physically, she might be cute if she lost weight, she acknowledges she's fat, though I've never mentioned it ("when you're out of hospital you can fully express your femininity" I tell her, ergo she might not repulse me when dressed and made up, but it's a long shot...) and after sending me nudes which seriously just turned me right-off, she senses I don't like her sexually. Well duh girl! I'll be visiting my mother and grandmother in her ward tomorrow, and I don't know where to take this. Dry spell is awful, hideous, a horror and a torture, I hate it, it's gotta die, die, die already! Die I say! Burn! But...

I'm obsessed with my own weight loss/fitness right now, and preparing for a major visit to NYC next May. Nothing will stand in my way. This chick has problems which her getting thin wouldn't solve, plus she's married (hates the bastard she says). She's pseudo-friend zoned me after I didn't go gaga over her nudes, but that won't last I feel. She'll be back... Do I subtly suggest we can f*ck if she loses weight? Is there a subtle way to do that, lol? She'll perhaps forget about me when she's back home and studying...
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Are you fvcking serious about this sh!t?

OMG OP, this is ridiculous...so you are going to entertain fvcking a whale because if she drops 100 lbs she might be good looking???

I don't even know what to say...this might be a new low point for this board.
 

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Are you fvcking serious about this sh!t?

OMG OP, this is ridiculous...so you are going to entertain fvcking a whale because if she drops 100 lbs she might be good looking???

I don't even know what to say...this might be a new low point for this board.
You are the most negative person on SoSuave.
 

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You are the most negative person on SoSuave.
All you estrogen filled princesses need to toughen up. I tell the truth and I don't mince words. Too many people here have onion skin when as a man you should have alligator skin...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If you are not attracted to a woman then do not go after her. It's really that simple. I don;t judge guys going after married women, and I do not judge married women who'cheat', it's just a woman's nature to always be looking for back-ups and replacements. Women are natural cheaters. You can never really OWN a woman, it's only your turn.

Having said that... flirting with teasing married women is fine, lunch dates and an occasional kiss is fine. But for GOD'S SAKE, do not fvck them. You cross that line and lord knows what might happen.
 

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All you estrogen filled princesses need to toughen up. I tell the truth and I don't mince words. Too many people here have onion skin when as a man you should have alligator skin...
Frame it however you want. You're negative. Take a hard look at yourself.
 

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Frame it however you want. You're negative. Take a hard look at yourself.
Nah, I'm a realist. You seem to enjoy being in fantasy land with Happy Gilmore riding the hobby horse and drinking pitchers of beer...

And now apparently in these fantasy lands they don't have hot chicks walking around in lingerie like in Happy Gilmore, they have whales walking around in curtains...what the fvck is going on with people??

Have some God damn self respect for yourself.
 

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Affairs are also extremely addictive for both people. What you both think is a "hit it and quit it" can often end up as a long term FWB that could go on for a few years. Obviously that greatly increases the exposure to risk of getting caught.

And you're exchanging naughty texts by phone. <Facepalm> Especially if hubby decides to snoop and look at her phone.
 
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Nah, I'm a realist. You seem to enjoy being in fantasy land with Happy Gilmore riding the hobby horse and drinking pitchers of beer...

And now apparently in these fantasy lands they don't have hot chicks walking around in lingerie like in Happy Gilmore, they have whales walking around in curtains...what the fvck is going on with people??

Have some God damn self respect for yourself.
Huh?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Fat, epileptic, married chick...talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.
 

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potentially attractive girl? what does that even mean? this thread has me perplexed.
 

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It's a girl who's cute but overweight who'd be hot if she slimmed down, that's what. Not quite a whale but still fat.

We've called it quits, although I enjoyed pseudo sex from an interested woman after an eternity wandering the searing, arid desert, I couldn't pony up the ******* factor to tell her she's fat and that the real deal would have to wait; the spell stands defiant but a little bruised. Told her to delete everything we've shared.
 

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It's a girl who's cute but overweight who'd be hot if she slimmed down, that's what. Not quite a whale but still fat.

We've called it quits, although I enjoyed pseudo sex from an interested woman after an eternity wandering the searing, arid desert, I couldn't pony up the ******* factor to tell her she's fat and that the real deal would have to wait; the spell stands defiant but a little bruised. Told her to delete everything we've shared.
Gotcha! a lot of overweight women are actually very pretty, they got to lose the pounds. I can't even force myself to have an erection with a large woman...
 

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Gotcha! a lot of overweight women are actually very pretty, they got to lose the pounds. I can't even force myself to have an erection with a large woman...
I agree, some of them have really great looking faces and then they let their body ruin their good features.

Visionist, I wouldn't fret, I think you were trying tp project your weight loss unto her, but remember, you can't control people and you cannot mold them the way you want them to be. Glad to hear you moved on to find another who was up to your standards.

Happy hunting.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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