"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Maximummax

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Hey folks, its been a while have opened a thread here.

I have a question
So when i talk to a girl for the first time I forget how to end it and so i find an excuse to leave it.

I would like to know what is the best way to end a conversation so a girl remembers me.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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SmooveMooves

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Conversations don't need a formal ending. Conversations end when you are both done talking and don't have anything else to add. After that you say: hey, I'll see you around....

And either
  1. Number close (Ask for her contact)
  2. Walk away
A lot of conversational problems simply come from not being relaxed and rushing.
 

KingofPuss

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Just let it flow and be relaxed. I've found that making the woman do most of the talking is easiest. Just look her in the eyes as she speaks so she feels like youre listening (and try actually listening, shut off your thoughts in conversation). Build your talk through what she says, or if you have something to bring to the table, do so.

You'd be surprised how much women love talking about nothing at all. Make fun of stuff, get her to laugh, and stay away from politics / religion
 

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Great advice guys... what about online conv like on fb
I get a lot of lays on fb. Most guys will say its a bad idea.

Strike up a convo "hey do we know each other?", "I didnt realize that you were into ____" etc.

Dont appear needy. Wait a while before you READ and RESPOND. I think its best to gauge their interests by asking a few questions, starting the convo and then saying "good chatting with you, I have to run. Lets chat later" and BOUNCE. Give it a few days to see if they message you back. If they do, close them. If they dont, its probably low interests, which is ok, on to the next one.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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