BraddH
Master Don Juan
Yo i recently had a date say that 'i got her horny but she was hesitating because it was our first date. Thoughts? Do girls my age gotta fuc you on the first date?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Yo i recently had a date say that 'i got her horny but she was hesitating because it was our first
- Thread starter BraddH
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
EyeBRollin
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It means you didn't escalate properly. You'll get another chance if you play your cards right. Make sure the logistics are on point to isolate her. Escalate and seal the deal.
BraddH
Master Don Juan
So if you cant get sex on the first date, you failed?
That's not what he said.
He meant that, in your situation, you could have escalated your way into sex if that's what you wanted. Girls are lead to sex. You can't really make her consciously decide to want to open her legs to you. Unless she a ho.
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
i think he means that in this specific instance you failed because it sounds like you could've gotten more than you got.
in general you only fail if it takes longer than average(your own personal average) to get laid
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
BraddH
Master Don Juan
I think i escalated too much. Her slut defense came up. I am pretty sure well fvck on the next date. She invited me to come over.
But what I dont understand is: are all girls 100% ready to fvck you on the first date if you did everything right?
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
slut defense doesn't mean that you escalated too much, on the contrary, slut defense means that you tried to escalate at all. if you don't run into slut defense at all and didn't get laid, then you simply didn't escalate.
however if you don't run into slut defense but still get laid then it would be either:
1. the girl is an actual slut or drunk/high
2. it's been a while into dating/the relationship/whatever so she doesn't feel the need to put up a defense
depends on a bunch of factors relating to the girl that you can't possibly know.
some girls really truly aren't going to let you get some on the first date no matter what, it depends on how easy the girl is in general.
CMNILS87
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Logistics I'd say. I had a 2nd date last night. She got pretty tuned up and I drove home. She told me her address, yet she was all over me. In the back of my head I was thinking, "just drive back to your place". On the other hand, she was super buzzed and I didn't want to push boundaries. We got to her place and she had her pants around her ankles in the truck. I see no need to push, I'd call that a wrap and a decent date.
Only way to find out dude, ask her on another date and see what she says
Only way to find out dude, ask her on another date and see what she says
old_skoolr
Master Don Juan
You can fvck girls without even dating them.
Thats what they dont tell betas and white knights.
Thats what they dont tell betas and white knights.
BraddH
Master Don Juan
Don't take the word date too seriously, its just a word to describe seeing someone
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
old_skoolr
Master Don Juan
True, seeing/dating/getting to know...its all the same shi1t