A friend and I took a lake trip a few hours from home over the weekend. We met with one of his coworkers and a bunch of others. I spot an absolute dime of a 21 year old who happens to be staying with my friends coworker. I engage, talk to her a bit, apply/receive kino for quite some time. Mind you, this girl is far out of my league. I'm a 6-7 at best, body maybe an 8-9. She's easy 9.5. Didn't think I stood a chance. I get her to stay in my camper the 2 nights we stayed at the lake and smashed. I don't notice a high IL now however after we have split ways. I'm 6 hours from where she lives, which obviously poses a problem. To be honest I feel like I've been struck with oneitis even though I have several other chicks I see regularly. I know I'm putting her on a pedestal but damn. She cooked for me, cleaned for me, had interesting convos the whole trip when we talked, sex was divine. It was like I finally found the chick a Don Juan is in search of his whole life and then she's gone as quickly as she came in. I didn't show any neediness, but I still showed interest in her. i don't necessarily have a question about the situation, but it sucks. after quite a while of being single rummaging through the pile of uninteresting women to find a quality dime you know was just a one time thing. I guess at the very least I've now had more experience with high quality women.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Lake girl.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You are right.
Von
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And remember... you made it happen once... you can do it again.... with ANOTHER girl, same HB level
Building_and_Loan
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Don't try to make this something it isn't, because you were probably nothing more than a good time for her. She's just enjoying being single.
Just be proud of yourself, enjoy the ego boost, and play it cool so you can smash in the future if the opportunity presents itself.
A lot of times guys fall in love or get oneitis with a girl they met on vacation, which is just a big mistake. Let it be an awesome memory and that's it.
Just be proud of yourself, enjoy the ego boost, and play it cool so you can smash in the future if the opportunity presents itself.
A lot of times guys fall in love or get oneitis with a girl they met on vacation, which is just a big mistake. Let it be an awesome memory and that's it.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
ImTheDoubleGreatest!
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Wait, she cooked and cleaned for you???
marmel75
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You young guys are way, way too impressed with the most basic sh!t.
ImTheDoubleGreatest!
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Says something to you about our current generation.....