"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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This girl is kind of a nut, she is 34, can't kiss at all, don't svck. Basically I opened up online dating profile again, this time to find an ltr, on 2nd day I found the girl I want. This nut chick was just many that I messaged. On our 1st date she didn't speak much, couldn't hold conversation, I knew immediately she is not what I want, I just went forward for sex, but didn't let her know that I just want fb. I had sex with her for two nights at my place, each time I was dissapointed - I can jerk off and orgasm better, plus she pushed me every time I snored. I stopped answering her calls and messaging her, thinking she'd get an idea. Then one day I was out and she come up to me, I told her I'm not interested in her, and asked her to leave me alone. Several weeks later, this girl comes to my work, like its nothing, and I tell her straight, wtf are you coming here, I have another girl, I love another girl, I don't want you. She cried and said then why did you had sex with me if it wasn't serious.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I reckon she is trying to guilt trip you. She's not being rational so don't try to reason with the girl. Respond with actions, not words, if you want her to leave you alone.
 

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That's mostly on you. You don't let women you have no intention of being serious with sleep over.

And if she was so bad then why was there a second time? Are you that desperate? Is this your "soul mate" chick from the other thread you met once and wanted to marry?
 

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That's mostly on you. You don't let women you have no intention of being serious with sleep over.

And if she was so bad then why was there a second time? Are you that desperate? Is this your "soul mate" chick from the other thread you met once and wanted to marry?
:down: I know, right, cuz we all know that women don't EVER enjoy sex just for sex. In 2015 these woman are so reserved, and they only have sex with their "soul mates" and guys they plan on marrying.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Lol, you're right to not put up with kind of disrespectful bullsh*t.
Again, why the fvck is OP allowing some random chick to sleep over?? That's weak sh!t bro...sleep overs are reserved for girlfriends.

Then OP wonders why chick thought he was serious? OP is clueless as to how things work apparently
 

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Again, why the fvck is OP allowing some random chick to sleep over?? That's weak sh!t bro...sleep overs are reserved for girlfriends.

Then OP wonders why chick thought he was serious? OP is clueless as to how things work apparently
because he don't care? because he want a quickie in the morning? who the **** cares? only thing I normally do is not bring girls to my home, so no surprise shows up on my door can happen, or is on her home or a motel, serious though if she keeps doing this better you start to put the cops after her
 

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I brought her over because I wanted to sleep with someone, 1st time she kept waking me because I was snoring, 2nd time she kept waking me up because she wanted sex, we fvcked like 8 times, then I said fvck it and went to sleep.
 

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because he don't care? because he want a quickie in the morning? who the **** cares? only thing I normally do is not bring girls to my home, so no surprise shows up on my door can happen, or is on her home or a motel, serious though if she keeps doing this better you start to put the cops after her
Point is you can't have it both ways. You can't treat a woman like your girlfriend then wonder why she is acting like she is your girlfriend. OP wants his cake and eat it too.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Point is you can't have it both ways. You can't treat a woman like your girlfriend then wonder why she is acting like she is your girlfriend. OP wants his cake and eat it too.
still not seeing the problem, sure he can work better after this and not let her know where he works and he lives, but then again, if was the otehr way around you guys would say he was the one doing it wrong for wanting more then she is willing to offer now, so serious I don't feel bad about her, and I hope the op will learn to do better next time
 

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Point is you can't have it both ways. You can't treat a woman like your girlfriend then wonder why she is acting like she is your girlfriend. OP wants his cake and eat it too.
Yeah except, after ignoring her completely and explicitly telling her to go away because he wasn't interested... she then shows up to his work weeks (???) later and cries because she thought they were still together.

Her initial confusion was understandable albeit naive, the OP could have handled that better. But her continued confusion after he told her directly face to face, that's 110% on her.
 

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Who cares. The fact is you don't want her anymore. If she bothers you again, just report her to the cops for stalking. She has all the traits of a bunny boiler.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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