Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
You're the one for me....fatty
- Thread starter Reykhel
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
mrgoodstuff
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Sometimes they won't feel the pain but do an even tighter "death spiral" if they are abusing alcohol or weed for example. But yes that pain is very motivating to do something about it.
Lozboss
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Old thread but there is nothing more saddening to see someone close to you who is still plugged in.
Sadly it is often only during trauma that we can unplug the AFCs. It is only in this raw state that they will finally open their eyes.
Sadly it is often only during trauma that we can unplug the AFCs. It is only in this raw state that they will finally open their eyes.
Yes, true.
And that's the point of giving the update.....the conclusion.
The conclusion was that I was being codependent.
Lozboss
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I don't agree. The dude is your brother- you care for him and want the best for him.
I wish I had a brother who cared as much.
That's different to co-dependence.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
CuddleJunkie
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Lmao Reykhel, your conclusion was ignored. But yes, I agree with you, only when people is ready to accept a new knowledge will they listen, and they will seek it on their own. We should just do our things, letting people know what we think but without trying to change them; this way, if they need/want help or advice on redpill stuff, they will know they can ask, but as always, they have to ask first.
Also, that is why some people here make the same mistakes again and again, they are not ready to accept what this forum has to offer; sure, they want the results, but the acceptance of hard truths is too much for them to deal with right now.
Also, that is why some people here make the same mistakes again and again, they are not ready to accept what this forum has to offer; sure, they want the results, but the acceptance of hard truths is too much for them to deal with right now.
Maybe. Or, the whale will continue to cling to his brother like a leech because she knows she can't do better, then they get married and have kids. Game over. But as the OP said, oh well it's his life. Let em f*ck it up. Just try to enjoy the show.
The one consolation is that he is anti-marriage and fvcking hates kids.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Interesting theory.
In reality, it's quite naive and wishful thinking.
With that logic all addicts would stop being addicts if those close to them were not users.....
Anyway, I'll state again, the point of the update...
Not my circus, not my monkeys.
If he chooses mediocrity for himself then that is all he deserves. If he does not strive for something better then he will never get it. You cannot help him, he can only help himself.
I believe I can deduce his problem... He has no self-esteem, he must have lost it over a series of personal cataclysms. Thus, he feels that his own self is worthless and thus he only deserves the undeserving company of that revolting woman. Hmmmm... I wonder if you can enhance his self-esteem, get a few attractive women friends of yours to help you out and hit on him to make him think he is better than that. If he gets positive reinforcement from women it would be evidence to him that he settled. Therefore, he will look at that whale and wonder if he can do better which may be the spark that can ignite a flame. It is not about convincing... Convincing rarely works on people. It is about being subtle, and planting the seed of a notion in his mind, make him wonder if he is better and if he can do better.
I believe I can deduce his problem... He has no self-esteem, he must have lost it over a series of personal cataclysms. Thus, he feels that his own self is worthless and thus he only deserves the undeserving company of that revolting woman. Hmmmm... I wonder if you can enhance his self-esteem, get a few attractive women friends of yours to help you out and hit on him to make him think he is better than that. If he gets positive reinforcement from women it would be evidence to him that he settled. Therefore, he will look at that whale and wonder if he can do better which may be the spark that can ignite a flame. It is not about convincing... Convincing rarely works on people. It is about being subtle, and planting the seed of a notion in his mind, make him wonder if he is better and if he can do better.
Obviously you've read the opening post and hurriedly jumped to give your premature assessment. This is an old thread and I updated simply to give a conclusion. In fact, the conclusion is more about what I have learned from the situation. Feel free to comment on the conclusion on the thread but I feel it's pointless to further assess the initial opening post when it's been done previously AND concluded.
However, I will make a comment about your post. It comes across as quite judgmental. From reading some of your posts you seem to lack depth as a person. You have the ability to answer on a intellectual surface level. If I were to hedge a bet I would say you're lacking something on an inner level. One can only gloss over the surface for so long...
Also, going by your "advice", either you lack reading comprehension skills or it demonstrates you were all too eager and overexcited to caste your "assessment". It might be worth looking into.
I thank you for your effort all the same.
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English is not your native language, yet you demonstrate a superior comprehension
level to a lot of natives. I salute you.
Thank you all for your contribution.
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English is not your native language, yet you demonstrate a superior comprehension
level to a lot of natives. I salute you.
Thank you all for your contribution.
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Well that's pretty rude
That's your perception.
I also thanked him, I wonder did you find that "rude" or "polite".....
But go on, I'll bite....tell me how I should have responded. Maybe I'll try it
your way. Maybe I'll adopt your value system. I'm open minded.
Bear in mind, the "advice" given would be geographically impossible to carry out which
is clear from the opening post. Therefore, my comment appears to be accurate....
But as I say, I'm open minded, and appearances can be deceptive, so I'll listen to your point of view....
I wonder will you be so open minded and disclose why this perception of rudeness seemed to offend your sensibilities so much. What did it touch inside you that's burning. It could be key in a whole new understanding of yourself....
When you suggest someone "seems to lack depth as a person," is "lacking something on an inner level," has pointlessly posted, is "judgemental," has jumped to a "premature assessment," and possibly "lacks reading comprehension skills"... thanking them for their effort tends to comes across as sarcastic and insincere.
Also I think you need to switch to decaf or something
Also I think you need to switch to decaf or something
daddymonsterpoodle
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Your heart is in the right place but he is making the choice. 5 years with any woman is an achievement. It may be heartbreaking and ****ed up but it seems to work for them in a hideous dysfunctional way.
When he hits rock bottom then he will see the truth...or not. Maybe he is a lazy deluded ***** and this is his fate.
When he hits rock bottom then he will see the truth...or not. Maybe he is a lazy deluded ***** and this is his fate.
Are you ok @Reykhel ? So obviously I read the opening post and few later ones involved, and the actual timing of it all may have eluded me. If you disagree with what I have to say then fine, you are entitled to your own opinions. However I am surprised that my little post caused such an overly emotional denouncement.
I can certainly psychoanalyze you, as you have done to me. But I will refrain from engaging in such simply because it is not worth my time and I consider impulsive overreactions to such trivial things to be weakness.
As for me "lacking something of a inner level" I will not even disagree with you on your assessment of me. It was unwarranted and impolite considering the circumstances, however you may actually be spot on about me.
I can certainly psychoanalyze you, as you have done to me. But I will refrain from engaging in such simply because it is not worth my time and I consider impulsive overreactions to such trivial things to be weakness.
As for me "lacking something of a inner level" I will not even disagree with you on your assessment of me. It was unwarranted and impolite considering the circumstances, however you may actually be spot on about me.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.